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That was a mistake. I ended up a programmer anyway, just with a degree that didn’t really prepare me for it.
As for the data, starting with 2019 is going to skew things. In 2022-2023 things went sideways and many big tech employers didn’t extend any intern offers or didn’t even have interns.
This year interns are back.
This article from March suggests it's not just tech jobs, either: https://www.forbes.com/sites/dianehamilton/2025/03/01/are-en...
Plus any solution that increases pay for entry-level workers necessarily costs employers more than the peanuts they currently pay workers overseas, so they'll bitch and moan as hard as they can to turn public interest against any politician that tries.
Really feels like we're just sitting ducks while other countries get their act together acting as hubs of innovation that already had far more varied industries across the board to begin with.
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> people are are told to hire h1 only -- not explicitly -- but implicitly I've funded and worked at a number of companies in the Enterprise SaaS space, and that's bull. I'm not saving any costs with a Visa sponsored employee. At that point I may as well fully offshore to a GCC.
))) Yeah that's bull. I'm not saving any costs with a Visa sponsored employee. It often isnt about saving money, it is about having fragile immigrant workers on a leash that you can control with the constant threat of layoff--->deportation
Reality is, H1B hiring is just as impacted as normal hiring in the US.
What did people think would the advanced state of "automate ourselves out of a job" would look like?
Some people probably meant to automate other people out of their jobs, so they get laid off. Those people deserve what they got.
What did people think would the advanced state of "automate ourselves out of a job" would look like?
Commenting anon, because i'm very concerned about how we are leaving the industry for our children, and how little executives care about the future. 1. anything we used to give to entry-level we now give to offshore workers, typically in Asia. While mean wages metrics look great, the cost savings are an illusion because we spend twice as much time communicating and tacking back and forth to the final answer across ti…
Can sort of confirm that. Wiped out is maybe the wrong word - they are more heavily being off-shored right now. Whilst there is some very obvious evaluations going on of replacing juniors with , it's quite obviously not there yet but management level interest is off the charts. We are trying to motion against it as much as we can internally... by arguing that we can use as a good coaching/mentoring support for junior…
The stove must be touched, there's no other way
The market right now is tough even for seniors not just entry level. My observation in tech is most jobs are for specialists rather than generalists. Also senior level jobs are quite rare. AI is not the only factor to blame, it’s mostly lack of growth and economic uncertainty, at least this is what I see in the UK.
What did people think would the advanced state of "automate ourselves out of a job" would look like?
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Mix of both. You can't justify hiring a new grad for $130K when you can hire top tier mid-career talent in Warsaw, Cluj, or Bangalore for $50-80K and average mid-career talent for $20-40k In fact, companies like Infosys have begun adopting coding copilots en masse to reduce their own new grad hiring by 20%, but increase utilization rates from 70% to 85%. That said, most new grads were not getting substituted by Infos…
80k in a rural area outside of Bangalore would be an absolute killing. The real hack here is to avail yourself of a digital nomad or engineer yourself an employment visa via some shell company and then live in the 3rd world while crushing the competition via 1st world education and language skills while passport broing somewhere with lax or unenforced visa rules.
There are significant insurance implications on an employer's side when dealing with employees remoting in random countries (first or third world).
Also, you as a company cannot avail tax incentives if employees are digital nomads.
For example, Czechia gives $20k per employee if you invest a couple million in office space, but conditions it with butts-in-seats.