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ChatGPT Is a Gimmick

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Re: ChatGPT Is a Gimmick

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These “AI is a gimmick that does nothing” articles mostly just communicate to me that most people lack imagination. I have gotten so much value out of AI (specifically ChatGPT and Midjourney) that it’s hard to imagine that a few years ago this was not even remotely possible. The difference, it seems, is that I’ve been looking at these tools and thinking how I can use them in creative ways to accomplish a goal - and n…

The article is mostly about the use of genAI in education.

It was written after the author attended a workshop where the presenter tried and seemingly failed to show how AI was able to write essays when prompted with the word "innovative" or produce a podcast on a book. The author also mentions an article by a university lecturer who claims that "Human interaction is not as important to today’s students" and that AI will basically replace it.

The subtitle of the article is "AI cannot save us from the effort of learning to live and die."

In other words, the article is about a specific trend in higher education to present AI as some sort of revolutionary tool that will completely change the way students learn.

The author disagrees and contends that pretending to replace most human interactions with genAI is a gimmick, and pretending that AI can make learning effortless is lying to students.

The way you use AI for learning language is certainly imaginative but you are not claiming that it replaces the quality of interacting with native speakers or possibly immersion in the culture. Your tool may be useful and clever but claiming it makes learning language effortless (as some AI apologists in education might) would make it a gimmick.

Re: ChatGPT Is a Gimmick

#122

AI is gimmick, smartphones are gimmick, computers are gimmick, automation is gimmick, books are gimmick, only %MY_ENLIGHTMENT% is not. Seriously, I understand saying something lime this about crypto or whatever meme of the day, but even current LLMs are literal magic. Instead of reading 10 pages of empty water and wasting my time, ChatGPT can summarize this as > Malesic argues that AI hype—especially in education—is…

> Instead of reading 10 pages of empty water and wasting my time, ChatGPT can summarize this as Definitely worth investing billions and wasting insane amount of energy... idk how people merge the "this is a revolution!" and "it kinda summed up a 10 pages pdf that I couldn't bother to read in the first place" without noticing the insane amount of mental gymnastic you have to go through to reconcile these two ideas. No…

The thing is, my script reads 3k articles every day to find anomalies and correlations. Humans can't do this.

Re: ChatGPT Is a Gimmick

#123

These “AI is a gimmick that does nothing” articles mostly just communicate to me that most people lack imagination. I have gotten so much value out of AI (specifically ChatGPT and Midjourney) that it’s hard to imagine that a few years ago this was not even remotely possible. The difference, it seems, is that I’ve been looking at these tools and thinking how I can use them in creative ways to accomplish a goal - and n…

I think it is more like giving someone a swiss army knife and they complain it won't even cut a piece of wood because their role in society is being compensated for cutting wood. All they know how to do is cut wood. They aren't even interested in anything but cutting wood.

This swiss army knife is totally useless!

Re: ChatGPT Is a Gimmick

#124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like we're talking past each other. In the interest of understanding, this is what I feel like I'm reading from you: 1. In a couple of contexts, as a non-expert, I'm getting excellent use out of these LLM tools, because I'm imaginative and creative in my use of them. 2. I get such great use out of them, as a non-expert, in these areas, that any expert claiming they are gimmicks, is simply wrong. They just need…

I said that people making blanket statements about LLMs being gimmicks need to be more creative. Then I listed a couple examples of how I find them useful, with the key point being that I don’t expect perfection. This isn’t that complicated. Someone wrote an article saying X is a gimmick and made a weak argument. I said no, in my experience that isn’t the case, and here are a few examples. Your patronizing tone is pr…

> I said that people making blanket statements about LLMs being gimmicks need to be more creative. Then I listed a couple examples of how I find them useful, with the key point being that I don’t expect perfection.

I just want to point out that this is precisely how they described your perspective. It’s hard to see how you find their tone patronizing given they’re just explaining their point of view. It’s worth noting that others may find your words to be patronizing:

> These “AI is a gimmick that does nothing” articles mostly just communicate to me that most people lack imagination.

> Most of the critical arguments (like the link) are almost always from people that use them as basic chatbots without any sort of deeper understanding or exploration of the tools.

> I said that people making blanket statements about LLMs being gimmicks need to be more creative.

Re: ChatGPT Is a Gimmick

#125

These “AI is a gimmick that does nothing” articles mostly just communicate to me that most people lack imagination. I have gotten so much value out of AI (specifically ChatGPT and Midjourney) that it’s hard to imagine that a few years ago this was not even remotely possible. The difference, it seems, is that I’ve been looking at these tools and thinking how I can use them in creative ways to accomplish a goal - and n…

You are talking about slop and nonsense, dude.

You didn't need AI for the things you list, and using AI has lowered the credibility and quality of your work.

I don't use any AI in my work. Which makes my work worth scanning by AI-- but not yours.

Re: ChatGPT Is a Gimmick

#126
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This why I like how perplexity forces citations. I use it more like I’m googling then I care about what the LLM writes. The LLM simply acts as a sometimes unreasonable interface to the search engine. So really, I’m more focused on if whatever embeddings the LLM is trained on found some correlations between different documents, etc that were not obvious to a different kind of search engine.

Perplexity often quotes references that simply don't exist. Recent examples provided by perplexity : Google Cloud. (2024). "Broadcast Transformation with Google Cloud." https://cloud.google.com/solutions/media-entertainment/broad... Microsoft Azure. (2024). "Azure for Media and Entertainment." https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/solutions/media-entertainm... IBC365. (2023). "The Future of Broadcast Engineering: Skills…

Yes. That’s why I click on the links and read them and think “this doesn’t exist”. Then I go about my day just like I would have sorting through links served to me by a Google query that ended up being nonsensical or irrelevant.

Re: ChatGPT Is a Gimmick

#130

AI is gimmick, smartphones are gimmick, computers are gimmick, automation is gimmick, books are gimmick, only %MY_ENLIGHTMENT% is not. Seriously, I understand saying something lime this about crypto or whatever meme of the day, but even current LLMs are literal magic. Instead of reading 10 pages of empty water and wasting my time, ChatGPT can summarize this as > Malesic argues that AI hype—especially in education—is…

> Instead of reading 10 pages of empty water and wasting my time, ChatGPT can summarize this as Definitely worth investing billions and wasting insane amount of energy... idk how people merge the "this is a revolution!" and "it kinda summed up a 10 pages pdf that I couldn't bother to read in the first place" without noticing the insane amount of mental gymnastic you have to go through to reconcile these two ideas. No…

Your strawman notwithstanding - yes, absolutely worth every single billion invested in it. A freaking machine can understand the text, stitch *MILLIONS* of information sources under a minute and provide me summarization of the text, resources to read about this topic and switch to completely unrelated topic if needed.

If this is not a miracle, then only true AGI is.

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