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Re: Rocky Linux 10 Will Support RISC-V

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Post by nine_k » Thu, May 22, 2025, 1:46 AM UTC

hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #20

gerdesj wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got Ubuntu 22.04 lying around that still update because they are LTS. Ubuntu has a well publicised policy for releases and you will have obviously read them. Try do-release-upgrade. You also mention "OS supplied from a vendor with extensive customization. Apt was dead." How on earth is that Ubuntu's problem?

Isn’t Ubuntu basically killing apt? My Ubuntu became unusable because it kept insisting on installing a snap version of Firefox breaking a whole bunch of workflows. I do want to try a RH based OS (maybe Fedora) so they don’t keep changing things on me, but just where I am in life right now I don’t have the time/energy to do so, so for now I’m relying on my Mac. Hopefully I can try a new Linux distro in a few months,…

I've heard many good things about Pop OS. It's like Ubuntu done right, and it does have an apt package for Firefox.

(I run Void myself, and stay merrily away from all these complications.)

Re: Rocky Linux 10 Will Support RISC-V

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Post by mulmen » Thu, May 22, 2025, 1:48 AM UTC

hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #20

gerdesj wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got Ubuntu 22.04 lying around that still update because they are LTS. Ubuntu has a well publicised policy for releases and you will have obviously read them. Try do-release-upgrade. You also mention "OS supplied from a vendor with extensive customization. Apt was dead." How on earth is that Ubuntu's problem?

Isn’t Ubuntu basically killing apt? My Ubuntu became unusable because it kept insisting on installing a snap version of Firefox breaking a whole bunch of workflows. I do want to try a RH based OS (maybe Fedora) so they don’t keep changing things on me, but just where I am in life right now I don’t have the time/energy to do so, so for now I’m relying on my Mac. Hopefully I can try a new Linux distro in a few months,…

I have been using Fedora Sway as my desktop operating system for a couple years now and I am very happy. It’s definitely worth a try. I have access to flatpak when I need it for apps like steam but the system is still managed by rpm/dnf. There’s of course some SELinux pain but that’s typically my fault for holding it wrong. Overall very impressed.

Re: Rocky Linux 10 Will Support RISC-V

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Post by publicmail » Thu, May 22, 2025, 2:11 AM UTC

Maybe a dumb question but how do non x86 boards normally boot Linux images in a generic way? When I was in the embedded space, our boards all relied on very specific device tree blobs. Is the same strategy used for these or does it use ACPI or something?

Re: Rocky Linux 10 Will Support RISC-V

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Post by tgmatt » Thu, May 22, 2025, 2:18 AM UTC

nine_k wrote: post #21

hshdhdhj4444 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn’t Ubuntu basically killing apt? My Ubuntu became unusable because it kept insisting on installing a snap version of Firefox breaking a whole bunch of workflows. I do want to try a RH based OS (maybe Fedora) so they don’t keep changing things on me, but just where I am in life right now I don’t have the time/energy to do so, so for now I’m relying on my Mac. Hopefully I can try a new Linux distro in a few months,…

I've heard many good things about Pop OS. It's like Ubuntu done right, and it does have an apt package for Firefox. (I run Void myself, and stay merrily away from all these complications.)

I can highly recommend it. Have been using it for a couple years or so now, haven't had any serious issues.

Re: Rocky Linux 10 Will Support RISC-V

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Post by 0x000xca0xfe » Thu, May 22, 2025, 2:19 AM UTC

agarren wrote: post #12

arminiusreturns wrote: post #6

I'm so looking forward to a RISC future!

Ditto! I haven’t found any hardware that’s daily-driver ready, but I keep looking. https://store.deepcomputing.io/products/dc-roma-ai-pc-risc-v... I especially like the idea of getting a framework version in this case I want to swap in a different mainboard. By their own admission, the risc-v board is targeting developers and not ready for prime time. Also coming from the US, not sure how the tariff thing will workou…

RISC-V software ecosystem is really good already. It feels like everybody is just waiting for high performance CPU cores now. Sadly silicon cannot be built and released within seconds like software...

Better to buy a SBC for now (I can recommend the OrangePi RV2 - it's fantastic!) and wait until actually desktop/laptop-class hardware is ready :)

Re: Rocky Linux 10 Will Support RISC-V

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Post by mogwire » Thu, May 22, 2025, 2:45 AM UTC

audidude wrote: post #3

Red Hat announced RISC-V yesterday with RHEL 10. So this seems rather expected. https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/red-hat-partners-with-sifive-...

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Re: Rocky Linux 10 Will Support RISC-V

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Post by dgfitz » Thu, May 22, 2025, 2:48 AM UTC

gerdesj wrote: post #13

dgfitz wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’d rather use redhat than Ubuntu. I was handed a machine the other week with Ubuntu 23.10 on it, OS supplied from a vendor with extensive customization. Apt was dead. Fuck that. At least RH doesn’t kill their repos.

I've got Ubuntu 22.04 lying around that still update because they are LTS. Ubuntu has a well publicised policy for releases and you will have obviously read them. Try do-release-upgrade. You also mention "OS supplied from a vendor with extensive customization. Apt was dead." How on earth is that Ubuntu's problem?

I cannot update the OS per the contract.

It’s Ubuntu’s problem because they decide they’re smarter than their users and nuke their repos.

Fuck all of that.

Re: Rocky Linux 10 Will Support RISC-V

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Post by dismalaf » Thu, May 22, 2025, 2:56 AM UTC

dgfitz wrote: post #27

gerdesj wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've got Ubuntu 22.04 lying around that still update because they are LTS. Ubuntu has a well publicised policy for releases and you will have obviously read them. Try do-release-upgrade. You also mention "OS supplied from a vendor with extensive customization. Apt was dead." How on earth is that Ubuntu's problem?

I cannot update the OS per the contract. It’s Ubuntu’s problem because they decide they’re smarter than their users and nuke their repos. Fuck all of that.

It's well publicized that they don't maintain support for old, non-LTS distros. They literally delivered what they promised. Could have been avoided by using an LTS distro.

Fedora does the same. No corporate vendor supports 6 month cycle distros for more than a year. RHEL releases come super slowly, for example.

Re: Rocky Linux 10 Will Support RISC-V

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Post by dismalaf » Thu, May 22, 2025, 2:58 AM UTC

felbane wrote: post #14

rob_c wrote: post #9

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Even better title: Rocky will take the RHEL work and rebrand and sell the boards at a discount from China and claim a win and that they're being attacked by IBM.

Man some of y'all really have beef with Rocky...

Because their model is the absolute laziest possible one.

Re: Rocky Linux 10 Will Support RISC-V

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Post by beeflet » Thu, May 22, 2025, 3:02 AM UTC

publicmail wrote: post #23

Maybe a dumb question but how do non x86 boards normally boot Linux images in a generic way? When I was in the embedded space, our boards all relied on very specific device tree blobs. Is the same strategy used for these or does it use ACPI or something?

I think windows ARM laptops use UEFI?