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Re: An upgraded dev experience in Google AI Studio

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Post by candiddevmike »

pjmlp wrote: post #5

> Gemini 2.5 Pro is incredible at coding, so we’re excited to bring it to Google AI Studio’s native code editor. It’s tightly optimized with our Gen AI SDK so it’s easier to generate apps with a simple text, image, or video prompt. The new Build tab is now your gateway to quickly build and deploy AI-powered web apps. We’ve also launched new showcase examples to experiment with new models and more. This is exactly wha…

I think there will still need to be some kind of translation layer besides natural language. It's just not succinct enough (especially English, ew), especially where it matters like a rules engine. The thought of building something like an adjudication or payment system with a LLM sounds terrible.

Re: An upgraded dev experience in Google AI Studio

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Post by odo1242 »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #9

Why did they hide the model thought details? Thoughts look like this now: Analyzing TypeScript Errors I'm currently focused on the actions/user.ts file, where I've identified a few issues. Specifically, I need to address a "Cannot find name" error related to UpdateUserDetailsFormState, and confirm that the intended target is UpdateUserDetailsFormInput. There might be some other discrepancies in the file that I need t…

It’s also rate-limited, which means the model will silently start skipping the chain of thought after a certain number of daily requests.

Definitely a downgrade over the old version, though really it’s just Google deciding to offer less for free.

Re: An upgraded dev experience in Google AI Studio

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Post by odo1242 »

hu3 wrote: post #30
aaronharnly wrote: post #14

Presumably Google AI Studio[1] and Google Firebase Studio[2] are made by different teams with very similar pitches, and Google is perfectly happy to have both of them exist, until it isn't: - AI Studio: "the fastest place to start building with the Gemini API" - Firebase Studio: "Prototype, build, deploy, and run full-stack, AI apps quickly" [1] https://aistudio.google.com/apps [2] https://firebase.google.com/

Bosses reading this: "this is brilliant! I'll assign multiple teams to the same project. Let the best team win! And then the other teams get PIP'd"

Technically it’s actually a good idea

…if you do it before publicly releasing and spending marketing budget on both products, giving them a full software lifecycle and a dedicated user-base that no longer trusts you to keep things running.

Honestly, even in that case it sucks to be a developer there knowing there’s a 50% chance that the work you did meant nothing.

Re: An upgraded dev experience in Google AI Studio

#44

Post by stickfigure »

pjmlp wrote: post #5

> Gemini 2.5 Pro is incredible at coding, so we’re excited to bring it to Google AI Studio’s native code editor. It’s tightly optimized with our Gen AI SDK so it’s easier to generate apps with a simple text, image, or video prompt. The new Build tab is now your gateway to quickly build and deploy AI-powered web apps. We’ve also launched new showcase examples to experiment with new models and more. This is exactly wha…

...as long as your application is only a few thousand lines of code.

Context windows are still tiny by "real world app" standards, and this doesn't seem to be changing significantly.

Re: An upgraded dev experience in Google AI Studio

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Post by koakuma-chan »

odo1242 wrote: post #42
koakuma-chan wrote: post #9

Why did they hide the model thought details? Thoughts look like this now: Analyzing TypeScript Errors I'm currently focused on the actions/user.ts file, where I've identified a few issues. Specifically, I need to address a "Cannot find name" error related to UpdateUserDetailsFormState, and confirm that the intended target is UpdateUserDetailsFormInput. There might be some other discrepancies in the file that I need t…

It’s also rate-limited, which means the model will silently start skipping the chain of thought after a certain number of daily requests. Definitely a downgrade over the old version, though really it’s just Google deciding to offer less for free.

Are you sure it's rate limited? I've been using it for quite a while today and it still appears to be thinking.

Re: An upgraded dev experience in Google AI Studio

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Post by simonw »

candiddevmike wrote: post #41
pjmlp wrote: post #5

> Gemini 2.5 Pro is incredible at coding, so we’re excited to bring it to Google AI Studio’s native code editor. It’s tightly optimized with our Gen AI SDK so it’s easier to generate apps with a simple text, image, or video prompt. The new Build tab is now your gateway to quickly build and deploy AI-powered web apps. We’ve also launched new showcase examples to experiment with new models and more. This is exactly wha…

I think there will still need to be some kind of translation layer besides natural language. It's just not succinct enough (especially English, ew), especially where it matters like a rules engine. The thought of building something like an adjudication or payment system with a LLM sounds terrible.

You don't need to use natural language to write your rules engine. LLMs speak every language under the sun, real or made up.

You could define your rules in Prolog if you wanted - that's just as effective a way to communicate them to an LLM as English.

Or briefly describe some made-up DSL and then use that.

For coding LLMs the goal is to have the LLM represent the logic clearly in whatever programming language it's using. You can communicate with it however you want.

I've dropped in screenshots of things related to what I'm building before, that works too.

Re: An upgraded dev experience in Google AI Studio

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Post by nitwit005 »

debugnik wrote: post #15
aaronharnly wrote: post #14

Presumably Google AI Studio[1] and Google Firebase Studio[2] are made by different teams with very similar pitches, and Google is perfectly happy to have both of them exist, until it isn't: - AI Studio: "the fastest place to start building with the Gemini API" - Firebase Studio: "Prototype, build, deploy, and run full-stack, AI apps quickly" [1] https://aistudio.google.com/apps [2] https://firebase.google.com/

Wait until you hear about Google Vertex AI Studio.

I recently tried to understand the AI products listed in the cloud console. That was not an easy task, despite them clearly having made great pains to clean it up.

Re: An upgraded dev experience in Google AI Studio

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Post by benbreen »

benbreen wrote: post #11

The ability to seamlessly integrate generated images is fascinating. Although it currently takes too long to really work in a game or educational context. As an experiment I just asked it to "recreate the early RPG game Pedit5 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedit5 ), but make it better, with a 1970s terminal aesthetic and use Imagen to dynamically generate relevant game artwork" and it did in fact make a playable, r…

Just as a side note, I ended up turning the 1970s RPG type game it originally made into a text-based RPG where you play as Henry James in 1889, kind of fun! Curious if the link actually works:

https://aistudio.google.com/app/prompts?state=%7B%22ids%22:%...

Re: An upgraded dev experience in Google AI Studio

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Post by CuriouslyC »

stickfigure wrote: post #44
pjmlp wrote: post #5

> Gemini 2.5 Pro is incredible at coding, so we’re excited to bring it to Google AI Studio’s native code editor. It’s tightly optimized with our Gen AI SDK so it’s easier to generate apps with a simple text, image, or video prompt. The new Build tab is now your gateway to quickly build and deploy AI-powered web apps. We’ve also launched new showcase examples to experiment with new models and more. This is exactly wha…

...as long as your application is only a few thousand lines of code. Context windows are still tiny by "real world app" standards, and this doesn't seem to be changing significantly.

I regularly put 50k LoC codebases in gemini, it has a 1M context window and actually uses it well.

Re: An upgraded dev experience in Google AI Studio

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Post by MrDarcy »

neom wrote: post #19
pjmlp wrote: post #5

> Gemini 2.5 Pro is incredible at coding, so we’re excited to bring it to Google AI Studio’s native code editor. It’s tightly optimized with our Gen AI SDK so it’s easier to generate apps with a simple text, image, or video prompt. The new Build tab is now your gateway to quickly build and deploy AI-powered web apps. We’ve also launched new showcase examples to experiment with new models and more. This is exactly wha…

This is why I think Rabbit is one of the most interesting startups around. If I could wave a wand and go pick any startup to go work at, it would be Rabbit.

Isn’t rabbit a scam? https://paulogpd.bearblog.dev/en-rabbit-r1-its-a-scam/
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