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Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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I absolutely despise comments like these, and you only see them on HN. It's like saying great architects aren't great, it's the construction workers who should get the credit.

Ive wasn't great. Apple has only improved since he left. There, does it help if I say it more directly?

It's great that you know better than Steve Jobs. You have impressive self-esteem.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Today I read a couple of book reviews in the Economist with Sam Altman as the subject. The books are : The Optimist. By Keach Hagey Empire of AI. By Karen Hao The reviews are positive for both books. The column itself is titled "Sam Altman is a visionary with a trustworthiness problem" and shows a few reasons people have had some problems with his behaviour. One quote from the article is : "Ms Livingston fired him, b…

Sounds a little like Holmes.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I absolutely despise comments like these, and you only see them on HN. It's like saying great architects aren't great, it's the construction workers who should get the credit.

> It's like saying great architects aren't great No, you made that up. It's like saying great architects are not the sole cause of the things they make. > it's the construction workers who should get the credit Don't you think the construction workers should get some of the credit?

Yeah, let's also give credit to the building materials and mother nature. Let's give credit to the pedestrians who walked by the construction site every day and decided not to commit arson.

Brilliant logic. And no, the original comment wasnt' saying "give the engineers some credit", it was saying the engineers deserve the credit instead of Ive.

Which is idiotic and common of smug, self-important programmers.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Unless OpenAI is going to also buy a robotics company and Ive is there to design the robot exterior, what else would they make aside from some wearable that just runs an LLM with heavy emphasis on the audio/speech modality? I have the feeling whatever it is will be uninspired and a giant let down.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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This is the only play for OpenAI. The AI service is going to be commoditized very very quickly and their moat will be gone. They will be doing vertical integration and push into everything. If people complained apple and google looked at apps and copied the functionality themselves what OpenAI will do will be much worse. Also when it took apple and google years to do it, OpenAI will do it very very quickly, in a year…

The other play is they build chatgpt.com into a destination. Two major data points to this: [1] Over 400M weekly actives, and [2] recent reports that chatgpt will be adding X.com / social network style features

Also known as “getting into the advertisement business”

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Sam is playing 4D chess here. He needs top-tier talent and design to build the next generation of AI hardware, and this move pulls in both capital and talent. Going after Apple—the king of consumer hardware—makes perfect sense: either OpenAI builds the iPhone killer or forces Apple to make a move. They’ve won the web interface so far, but don’t own an OS or device layer, so this helps solve that long-term strategic g…

Identical comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44056238

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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What the other commenters are forgetting is that this is the same Sam Altman who planned and executed the extraction of Reddit from Condé Nast. This acquisition (and the Windsurf acquisition) are all-stock deals, which have the added benefit of reducing the control the nonprofit entity has over the for profit OpenAI entity. How do you extract the for profit entity out of the hands of a nonprofit? - Step 1: you have c…

Sam also ran a crypto scam called WorldCoin. Their secret sauce was tricking poor people in Africa.

Runs, I think. WorldCoin is still around, just re-branded as 'World Network'. I didn't spot the usual leadership bios on a quick search.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Sam is playing 4D chess here. He needs top-tier talent and design to build the next generation of AI hardware, and this move pulls in both capital and talent. Going after Apple—the king of consumer hardware—makes perfect sense: either OpenAI builds the iPhone killer or forces Apple to make a move. They’ve won the web interface so far, but don’t own an OS or device layer, so this helps solve that long-term strategic g…

Identical comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44056251
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