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Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by mrbungie »

oldpersonintx2 wrote: post #427
belter wrote: post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The AI hype seems driven more by stock valuations than genuine productivity gains. Developers now spend excessive time crafting prompts and managing AI generated pull requests :-) tasks that a simple email to a junior coder could have handled efficiently. We need a study that shows the lost productivity. When CEOs aggressively promote such tech solutions, it signals we're deep into bubble territory: “If you go forwar…

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Wow, such a uncalled straw man out of nowhere.

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Post by rchaud »

belter wrote: post #382
RC_ITR wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to stem pointless debates before they flame up - both these acquisitions appear to be primarily if not exclusively for stock. Sure, if you want to get into theoretical finance, OpenAI could have sold these new shares for cash, so technically there's no difference, but OpenAI is only spending opportunity cost cash, rather than fiat. OpenAI's fiat likely still goes to the things you'd expect, like training models…

The AI hype seems driven more by stock valuations than genuine productivity gains. Developers now spend excessive time crafting prompts and managing AI generated pull requests :-) tasks that a simple email to a junior coder could have handled efficiently. We need a study that shows the lost productivity. When CEOs aggressively promote such tech solutions, it signals we're deep into bubble territory: “If you go forwar…

US shareholder capitalism is increasingly dependent on pushing a fantasy where X Company will eventually operate as an unregulated monopoly with armies of machines run by a small group of contract labour with no benefits and no wage bargaining power.

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Post by runjake »

askafriend wrote: post #456
thunkingdeep wrote: post #455

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The only people I’ve ever known who actually thought Reddit ever really mattered was people in the HN sphere. Anecdata, but still. In terms of value per minute spent, it’s the same tier of slop as TikTok or Instagram, and I think most ordinary people hold that same view.

Yes, TikTok and Instagram...some of the most valuable media, entertainment and communication businesses in history.

I can't tell. Are you countering OP's point or pointing out that slop is a lucrative business?

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by xeonmc »

zombiwoof wrote: post #370
tough wrote: post #320

tbh has jony ive produced any remarkable hardware piece since he left apple? Can't think of any maybe im wrong he must be buying the name or something or just the brains idk

Also remember Ive didn’t even plan for the watch to be fitness he wanted high end fashion. He’s not always the best. Lighting struck once and he says aluminum in a smart sounding way, give him a billion

alumininium

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Post by ryoshu »

thunkingdeep wrote: post #455
catigula wrote: post #452

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That is interesting given that reddit has gone from a cultural powerhouse to something most people talk about shamefully, if at all.

The only people I’ve ever known who actually thought Reddit ever really mattered was people in the HN sphere. Anecdata, but still. In terms of value per minute spent, it’s the same tier of slop as TikTok or Instagram, and I think most ordinary people hold that same view.

Major advertisers are trying to figure out Reddit now, but it's a mixed bag and the costs are high compared to other platforms. It's no longer a niche.

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Post by paxys »

gip wrote: post #312

It is fascinating how design has become the new gold standard in the AI era. It really looks the strongest signals come from taste and design quality and AI is killing other signals.

What design are we talking about? An interface with a text input box at the bottom, chat view on top and a list of previous conversations on the left? Takes an entry level engineer a few hours to come up with that, not a $6.5B design firm and Jony Ive.

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Post by Jaxkr »

thunkingdeep wrote: post #455
catigula wrote: post #452

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is interesting given that reddit has gone from a cultural powerhouse to something most people talk about shamefully, if at all.

The only people I’ve ever known who actually thought Reddit ever really mattered was people in the HN sphere. Anecdata, but still. In terms of value per minute spent, it’s the same tier of slop as TikTok or Instagram, and I think most ordinary people hold that same view.

> In terms of value per minute spent, it’s the same tier of slop as TikTok or Instagram

Insane take. Reddit hosts deep threaded discussions on almost any topic imaginable. In its prime it was the best forum on the internet. There’s a reason people commonly add “reddit” to the end of their search queries.

Unfortunately it feels like the community has gotten much dumber after they banned third party apps and restricted API access. It’s also lost almost all of its Aaron Swartz style hacktivist culture.

Reddit, in its prime, was incredible and beloved by almost everyone I know (most of which are far outside the HN sphere)

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Post by polynomial »

blixt wrote: post #77

I actually thought the video they posted[1] would have information, but that was just 9 minutes of two guys congratulating each other. [1] https://twitter.com/OpenAI/status/1925235156157440438

This right here. How is this being treated as news, not back slapping?

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Post by dev_l1x_be »

belter wrote: post #382
RC_ITR wrote: post #349

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to stem pointless debates before they flame up - both these acquisitions appear to be primarily if not exclusively for stock. Sure, if you want to get into theoretical finance, OpenAI could have sold these new shares for cash, so technically there's no difference, but OpenAI is only spending opportunity cost cash, rather than fiat. OpenAI's fiat likely still goes to the things you'd expect, like training models…

The AI hype seems driven more by stock valuations than genuine productivity gains. Developers now spend excessive time crafting prompts and managing AI generated pull requests :-) tasks that a simple email to a junior coder could have handled efficiently. We need a study that shows the lost productivity. When CEOs aggressively promote such tech solutions, it signals we're deep into bubble territory: “If you go forwar…

Manager pipe dreams that AI (read LLMs) replacing programmers. There might be a rude awakening when in fact AI replaces some admin type managers.

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Post by qgin »

slg wrote: post #202
qgin wrote: post #142

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If we’re talking about the singularity robot takeover fast takeoff, maybe that’s true. But Sam and others have said they see AGI is an uneven process that may not have a clear finish line. The intelligence is spiky and some parts will be superhuman while other parts lag.

Doesn't this contradict the whole idea of AGI? How is it still "general" if it is "spiky" with numerous gaps in its "intelligence"? It sounds like a CEO moving the goalposts when asked to accomplish something they don't think they can deliver.

Just means by the time you get agreement that every checkbox has been checked, much of the world will already have been dominated by the spiky parks to AI long before.

We'll be living in a mostly AGI-ish world long before it gets declared. People might not even care about declaring it at that point.

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