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Post by bradgessler »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #181
whynotminot wrote: post #78

These product-focused moves feel like a tacit admission that AGI is further away than they’ve been preaching. If it was close at hand, spending precious resources on anything other than pursuing AGI wouldn’t make sense.

Does anyone seriously think we're anywhere close to AGI with LLMs? I know CEOs like to say things to blow smoke up investors asses, but does anyone with actual credibility think that?

I do think LLMs will make incredible progress and we'll see lots of breakthroughs from it, but I agree it's nowhere close to AGI.

I'm not sure that matters though—if a technology can give humans what they want exactly when they want it, it doesn't matter if AGI, LLMs, humans, or some other technology is behind that.

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Post by darth_avocado »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #181
whynotminot wrote: post #78

These product-focused moves feel like a tacit admission that AGI is further away than they’ve been preaching. If it was close at hand, spending precious resources on anything other than pursuing AGI wouldn’t make sense.

Does anyone seriously think we're anywhere close to AGI with LLMs? I know CEOs like to say things to blow smoke up investors asses, but does anyone with actual credibility think that?

I believe Yann LeCun more than I do any CEO. And he has been pretty clear you’re not going to get AGI any time soon.

Previously discussed on HN:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39059897

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by shermantanktop »

taylorlapeyre wrote: post #187
thinkingtoilet wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone seriously think we're anywhere close to AGI with LLMs? I know CEOs like to say things to blow smoke up investors asses, but does anyone with actual credibility think that?

People really avoid considering what the word "general" implies. Yesterday I tried sending o3 a screenshot of some sheet music, asking for a midi file of how it sounds. Complete failure x3. Could not even get the value of the first note right. This is not "general" intelligence.

These models are notably terrible at music in every dimension.

Music is essentially mathematical. Weakness in math is being addressed by dedicated capabilities that are triggered by mathematical language in prompts, but because these models are actually terrible at math there is no lateral transfer of skill to the domain of music. That's my theory anyway.

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Post by pier25 »

thinkingtoilet wrote: post #181
whynotminot wrote: post #78

These product-focused moves feel like a tacit admission that AGI is further away than they’ve been preaching. If it was close at hand, spending precious resources on anything other than pursuing AGI wouldn’t make sense.

Does anyone seriously think we're anywhere close to AGI with LLMs? I know CEOs like to say things to blow smoke up investors asses, but does anyone with actual credibility think that?

Nobody fully understands how human intelligence works. It's implausible we'll be able to replicate it or even come up with something better in the short term.

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Post by [deleted] »

qgin wrote: post #142
whynotminot wrote: post #78

These product-focused moves feel like a tacit admission that AGI is further away than they’ve been preaching. If it was close at hand, spending precious resources on anything other than pursuing AGI wouldn’t make sense.

If we’re talking about the singularity robot takeover fast takeoff, maybe that’s true. But Sam and others have said they see AGI is an uneven process that may not have a clear finish line. The intelligence is spiky and some parts will be superhuman while other parts lag.

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Post by rossng »

sidewndr46 wrote: post #203
digianarchist wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no post-LLM story. This consolidation is both building product and user-capture before that becomes wildly admitted. I think LLMs will become more useful and more efficient over time as models refine but these aren't the (AI) droids you're looking for.

what does LLVM mean here?

I assume it's 'large language and vision model'.

But, for sanity's sake, if we insist on putting 'vision' in there, let's at least call them LVLMs!

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by paul7986 »

Finally a GPT phone or personal AI mobile device looks to be in the works!

I’m done with iPhone once GPT releases their personal mobile AI device!

*Hmmm being downvoted the 500 million who use GPT daily won’t be excited to ditch iPhone for GPT phone? Love to hear why others think this isn’t a good idea?

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