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Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, May 21, 2025, 6:04 PM UTC

poormathskills wrote: post #88

philosophty wrote: post #50

This is a sign of OpenAI's weakness. Altman is desperately trying to use OpenAI's inflated valuation to buy some kind of advantage. Which is why he's buying ads, paying $6.5 billion in stock to Jony Ive, and $3 billion for a VSCode fork created in a few months. Almost anything makes sense when you see your valuation going to zero unless you can figure something out.

OpenAI does literally anything “This is a sign of OpenAI’s weakness” I think this is the third time I’ve seen this exact comment at the top of a HN post about an OpenAI announcement.There is a weird amount of emotional investment in not wanting OpenAI to win. Personally, I am just excited to see what the device looks like. The prototype must be good to justify this valuation.

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Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by jonnat » Wed, May 21, 2025, 6:04 PM UTC

strangattractor wrote: post #160

karaterobot wrote: post #30

Sometimes two collaborators make each other better than either are alone. I get the sense that's how Steve Jobs and Jony Ive were. I've not seen anything Ive has done since be as good as what he did before. Someone has to hold the spike so the other one can swing the hammer. My guess is that's not how this relationship with Altman will work. And that picture is terrifying, please take it down and destroy the camera t…

The headline then is "Sam Altman pays Johnny Ive $6.6Bn to become his Collaborator". Not a bad idea really IMHO.

He most definitely did not pay $6.6B. The beauty of these OpenAI acquisitions is that they are all-stock transactions so only worth the face value in the make-believe world OpenAI investors seem to live in.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by sethops1 » Wed, May 21, 2025, 6:05 PM UTC

$6,500,000,000 dollars for ... what, exactly?

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by singularity2001 » Wed, May 21, 2025, 6:06 PM UTC

neuralkoi wrote: post #94

The comments on this article are very interesting. The next major device will definitely be AI-first. Apple is currently trying to jerry-rig AI into their existing product, the iPhone. This has so far not only been a complete failure, but is bound to be a complete failure in the end. The next Apple will be the one that creates an AI-first device entirely from scratch. AI lies at the core of everything it does. It's a…

The next major device will be AI first but not voice in voice out, but rather voice in text out (and images). I'm not sure they understand this and I'm not sure they could deliver anything which would surpass the iPhone.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by ks2048 » Wed, May 21, 2025, 6:07 PM UTC

nickrubin wrote: post #7

OpenAI announcement: https://openai.com/sam-and-jony/

When is their big day? Do they have a registry to send gifts? Anyways, congrats, looks like a happy couple.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by netvarun » Wed, May 21, 2025, 6:07 PM UTC

Tangent: Did Windsurf actually get acquired by OpenAI? I would have imagined some sort of announcement from OpenAI at the very least? Bloomberg was the one to break that news too, but haven't seen any follow up.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by SimianSci » Wed, May 21, 2025, 6:07 PM UTC

blixt wrote: post #77

I actually thought the video they posted[1] would have information, but that was just 9 minutes of two guys congratulating each other. [1] https://twitter.com/OpenAI/status/1925235156157440438

Sounds like the same level of substance IO had before it was purchased.

Aside from the news is there anything more to this acquisition than two people effectivly repeating "look at us" on loop?

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by spruce_tips » Wed, May 21, 2025, 6:07 PM UTC

tymscar wrote: post #207

The video they posted looks like its made with AI. Their movements and facial expressions are too uncanny

i thought so too. way too weird looking. there's a reason they zoomed on their faces whenever they were talking - to hide the unnatural hand movement

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by outside1234 » Wed, May 21, 2025, 6:08 PM UTC

milkshakes wrote: post #105

outside1234 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or he thinks OpenAI is really only worth something in the $30B range and he is getting a steal while his currency is hot.

considering that the deal is "an all-stock" one, that would not be a great bet.

Its possible for Jony to think that it is worth more while Sam does not.

Or Jony to like the $6.5B headline, but realize that he is probably only getting $150M.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Post by justanotheratom » Wed, May 21, 2025, 6:08 PM UTC

whynotminot wrote: post #78

These product-focused moves feel like a tacit admission that AGI is further away than they’ve been preaching. If it was close at hand, spending precious resources on anything other than pursuing AGI wouldn’t make sense.

RE: product-focused moves

These are tentacles that AGI will need.