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Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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This is a sign of OpenAI's weakness. Altman is desperately trying to use OpenAI's inflated valuation to buy some kind of advantage. Which is why he's buying ads, paying $6.5 billion in stock to Jony Ive, and $3 billion for a VSCode fork created in a few months. Almost anything makes sense when you see your valuation going to zero unless you can figure something out.

Weakness that is rooted in blind ambition that is not backed up by any kind of vision.

Which, when you think about it, is really kind of sad. They would have been so much better off as a non-profit.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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These product-focused moves feel like a tacit admission that AGI is further away than they’ve been preaching. If it was close at hand, spending precious resources on anything other than pursuing AGI wouldn’t make sense.

If we’re talking about the singularity robot takeover fast takeoff, maybe that’s true. But Sam and others have said they see AGI is an uneven process that may not have a clear finish line. The intelligence is spiky and some parts will be superhuman while other parts lag.

Doesn't this contradict the whole idea of AGI? How is it still "general" if it is "spiky" with numerous gaps in its "intelligence"?

It sounds like a CEO moving the goalposts when asked to accomplish something they don't think they can deliver.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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These product-focused moves feel like a tacit admission that AGI is further away than they’ve been preaching. If it was close at hand, spending precious resources on anything other than pursuing AGI wouldn’t make sense.

There's no post-LLM story. This consolidation is both building product and user-capture before that becomes wildly admitted. I think LLMs will become more useful and more efficient over time as models refine but these aren't the (AI) droids you're looking for.

what does LLVM mean here?

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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These product-focused moves feel like a tacit admission that AGI is further away than they’ve been preaching. If it was close at hand, spending precious resources on anything other than pursuing AGI wouldn’t make sense.

Does anyone seriously think we're anywhere close to AGI with LLMs? I know CEOs like to say things to blow smoke up investors asses, but does anyone with actual credibility think that?

depends on what we mean when define AGI

i think there's ample evidence to suggest that we're growing closer (3-5 year timeline?) to replacement-level knowledge workers in targeted fields with limited scope. i don't know that i would call that AGI? but i think it's fair to call it close.

thing is that has value, but compute ain't cheap and the value prop there is more of reducing payroll rather than necessarily scaling business ops. this move to me looks like a recognition that generalized AI on it's own isn't a force multiplier as long as you have bottlenecks that make it too pricey to scale activity by an order of magnitude or more.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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The comments on this article are very interesting. The next major device will definitely be AI-first. Apple is currently trying to jerry-rig AI into their existing product, the iPhone. This has so far not only been a complete failure, but is bound to be a complete failure in the end. The next Apple will be the one that creates an AI-first device entirely from scratch. AI lies at the core of everything it does. It's a…

The reason why Apple has failed to integrate AI successfully into the iPhone isn't because we need an AI-first device, it's because AI is still universally being strategized as a solution in search of a problem. An AI-first device at this stage will fail for the same reason: it doesn't have a mission statement to solve particular problems for real people, it has a mission statement to be an AI device. The absolute be…

I don't know for all other people, but ai totally can be solution to some of my problems, but the current technological landscape does not let it. I'd like for my ai assistant to have as much context about me as possible so that it can give me help in different situations. At the same time, the ai should be unable to share this info with anyone else. However, I cannot imagine Google or Microsoft committing to safeguard data they won't sell. Neither I can imagine Apple offering such an AI without trying to rob me even more blind than I'm now while telling me that they are my best friend. Doing it myself could be a half-baked but somewhat functional solution and honestly I hope that someone of the same mind would build on the labor of others to provide something workable.

Re: OpenAI to buy AI startup from Jony Ive

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone seriously think we're anywhere close to AGI with LLMs? I know CEOs like to say things to blow smoke up investors asses, but does anyone with actual credibility think that?

People really avoid considering what the word "general" implies. Yesterday I tried sending o3 a screenshot of some sheet music, asking for a midi file of how it sounds. Complete failure x3. Could not even get the value of the first note right. This is not "general" intelligence.

I'm general intelligence, and could not in a million years do that.
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