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What If Every Picture You've Ever Seen Already Exists?

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Reminds me of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloot_Digital_Coding_System The Sloot Digital Coding System is an alleged data sharing technique that its inventor claimed could store a complete digital movie file in 8 kilobytes of data — which, if true, would dramatically disprove Shannon's source coding theorem, a widely accepted principle of information theory that predicts how much data compression of a digital file…

is this yet another tech hoax?

Re: What If Every Picture You've Ever Seen Already Exists?

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Reminds me of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloot_Digital_Coding_System The Sloot Digital Coding System is an alleged data sharing technique that its inventor claimed could store a complete digital movie file in 8 kilobytes of data — which, if true, would dramatically disprove Shannon's source coding theorem, a widely accepted principle of information theory that predicts how much data compression of a digital file…

is this yet another tech hoax?

Dying is a pretty extreme length to go to for a hoax

Re: What If Every Picture You've Ever Seen Already Exists?

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Reminds me of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloot_Digital_Coding_System The Sloot Digital Coding System is an alleged data sharing technique that its inventor claimed could store a complete digital movie file in 8 kilobytes of data — which, if true, would dramatically disprove Shannon's source coding theorem, a widely accepted principle of information theory that predicts how much data compression of a digital file…

I wonder if this could be done with some kind of seed generation (as in minecraft), but it sounds like magical thinking to have a seed and generator anywhere near small enough to not just contain all the data anyway.

Re: What If Every Picture You've Ever Seen Already Exists?

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We live in a many dimensional phase space. Our life is a trajectory line in it, moving along the line is percepted as time.

God sees all the space at once (this is an “all knowing” part).

But we are left with the choice of which turn to take at every moment (this is the “free will” part), which picture to draw, which movie to create (this is the “in god’s image” part) etc.

From human perspective there is no difference if you create or explore the phase space. Just a wordplay. Because by definition you can’t distinguish those.

Re: What If Every Picture You've Ever Seen Already Exists?

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Reminds me of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloot_Digital_Coding_System The Sloot Digital Coding System is an alleged data sharing technique that its inventor claimed could store a complete digital movie file in 8 kilobytes of data — which, if true, would dramatically disprove Shannon's source coding theorem, a widely accepted principle of information theory that predicts how much data compression of a digital file…

This is really interesting thought. Could someone help me understand where I'm going wrong? Because I assume that Sloot made the same mistake that I'm making here, and I'm struggling to understand the Shannon's source code theorem article, so I'm thinking in practical terms: If you wanted any movie in 1080x768, and wanted to have it in full colour, that would be 16,777,216 possible colours per pixel, so the number of…

There is a small mistake in the formula: the actual cardinality of the noise database would be 16777216 ^ (1024 * 768), which is a much bigger number.

Re: What If Every Picture You've Ever Seen Already Exists?

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is really interesting thought. Could someone help me understand where I'm going wrong? Because I assume that Sloot made the same mistake that I'm making here, and I'm struggling to understand the Shannon's source code theorem article, so I'm thinking in practical terms: If you wanted any movie in 1080x768, and wanted to have it in full colour, that would be 16,777,216 possible colours per pixel, so the number of…

There is a small mistake in the formula: the actual cardinality of the noise database would be 16777216 ^ (1024 * 768), which is a much bigger number.

Ah yes, the way I was thinking of it, I was only considering the variations of one pixel in each position of the image, not combined. Thanks!

Re: What If Every Picture You've Ever Seen Already Exists?

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Here is a number that has all those pictures encoded: π

It is unknown whether the digits of pi contains every single finite sequence of numbers. But the Champernowne Constant does[1].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champernowne_constant

Re: What If Every Picture You've Ever Seen Already Exists?

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In my opinion, this set of images contains no information at all. A very short program can generate it. I could offer the whole repository for an affordable cost on a cloud image hosting service because the filename for each image would have to be at least as long as the image itself. When users request an image I need only echo the request back to them.
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