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Re: A Research Preview of Codex

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Just curious: is your company happy sharing their code-base with an AI provider? Or are you using a local installation?

For 99% of companies, their code is worthless to anyone but them.

If that was true, hardly any company would be opposed to open sourcing their code base.

Re: A Research Preview of Codex

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As much as I support community developed software and "free as in freedom", "Open Source" got completely perverted into tricking people to work for free for huge financial benefits for others. Your comment is just one example of that. For that reason all my silly little side projects are now in private repos. I dont care the chance somebody builds a business around them is slim to none. Dont think putting a license w…

Protect you from what? What harm is there to you if someone uses some of your code to build a business, as compared to not doing so? How are you worse off? I’ve never understood this mentality. It seems very zero sum and kind of anti social. I’ve built a couple of businesses, and there’s always economic or technical precedent. I honestly don’t mind paying it forward if someone can benefit from side projects I enjoyed…

And much as people joke about "exposure" not putting food on the table, being able to walk into a job interview with your name known because the company is already using your code/project is huge.

Re: A Research Preview of Codex

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Some engineers on my team at Assembled and I have been a part of the alpha test of Codex, and I'll say it's been quite impressive. We’ve long used local agents like Cursor and Claude Code, so we didn’t expect too much. But Codex shines in a few areas: Parallel task execution: You can batch dozens of small edits (refactors, tests, boilerplate) and run them concurrently without context juggling. It's super nice to run…

It looks we are in this interesting cycle: millions of engineers contribute to open-source on github. The best of our minds use the code to develop powerful models to replace exactly these engineers. In fact, the more code a group contributes to github, the easier it is for the companies to replace this group. Case in point, frontend engineers are impacted most so far. Does this mean people will be less incentivized…

My pessimistic view is that we're liable to end up cutting off the pipeline into the industry. Similar to lawyers replacing clerks with bots, if senior engineers can now command bots rather than mentor new hires, where is the on-ramp? How does one actually gain enough experience to become a senior?

Or is all this a nothing-burger, since the new hires will just be commanding bots of their own, but on lower level tasks that they are qualified to supervise?

Re: A Research Preview of Codex

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> AI is creating novel solution to problems humans haven't cracked in centuries Really?

Yes, really. Just yesterday google announced their AI was able to improve on human SotA algorithms in 25% of the cases fed into it. One of them was 4x4 complex matrix multiply. Which had pretty huge pressure to be improved.

I'm skeptical. I wouldn't call brute-force creating, not really. And Google obviously has an interest in promoting AI.

Not to say it's not impressive and good.

Re: A Research Preview of Codex

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"After a couple of million suggestions and a few dozen repetitions of the overall process" How much of it is brute force?

Are we maybe moving the goalposts here? How much of human creativity is brute force?

No, we're trying to have a conversation.

Re: A Research Preview of Codex

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post #474

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Exactly. Courtesy and kindness are largely for the benefit of the giver. People who think “now I’m free to be the jerk I really am” worry me.

There's a very large gap between being super nice to a human and being a jerk. I don't think it benefits me much by very politely suggesting that its approach may not work and emphasize on the good part of the idea it generates and it would be better if it could try to push in another direction for example X. Like I do when talking to junior engineers. I usually just say, "This does not work because of ..., Y is good…

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