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Gemma 3n preview: Mobile-first AI

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Re: Gemma 3n preview: Mobile-first AI

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post #22

Is anyone able to test it via AiStudio? I pay for Google's AI subscription, but any attempt to use this model results in a message telling me I've hit my rate limit.

Same here.

I've also seemingly hit a rate limit on Gemini Pro 2.5 (on an account not subscribed to Gemini Advanced) yesterday, even though my last query is weeks past.

Possibly there's a capacity shortage (I'd presume it all runs on the same Google hardware in the end), and they are prioritizing paid inference?

Re: Gemma 3n preview: Mobile-first AI

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post #5

Probably a better link: https://developers.googleblog.com/en/introducing-gemma-3n/ Gemma 3n is a model utilizing Per-Layer Embeddings to achieve an on-device memory footprint of a 2-4B parameter model. At the same time, it performs nearly as well as Claude 3.7 Sonnet in Chatbot Arena.

Imagine a model smarter than most humans that fits on your phone. edit: I seem to be the only one excited by the possibilities of such small yet powerful models. This is an iPhone moment: a computer that fits in your pocket, except this time it's smart.

I can't speak for anyone else, but these models only seem about as smart as google search, with enormous variability. I can't say I've ever had an interaction with a chatbot that's anything redolent of interaction with intelligence.

Now would I take AI as a trivia partner? Absolutely. But that's not really the same as what I look for in "smart" humans.

Re: Gemma 3n preview: Mobile-first AI

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You can try it on Android right now:

Download the Edge Gallery apk from github: https://github.com/google-ai-edge/gallery/releases/tag/1.0.0

Download one of the .task files from huggingface: https://huggingface.co/collections/google/gemma-3n-preview-6...

Import the .task file in Edge Gallery with the + bottom right.

You can take pictures right from the app. The model is indeed pretty fast.

Re: Gemma 3n preview: Mobile-first AI

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post #31
post #22

Is anyone able to test it via AiStudio? I pay for Google's AI subscription, but any attempt to use this model results in a message telling me I've hit my rate limit.

Same here. I've also seemingly hit a rate limit on Gemini Pro 2.5 (on an account not subscribed to Gemini Advanced) yesterday, even though my last query is weeks past. Possibly there's a capacity shortage (I'd presume it all runs on the same Google hardware in the end), and they are prioritizing paid inference?

If you're paying enough per month you can upgrade your keys to a higher tier:

https://aistudio.google.com/app/apikey

Re: Gemma 3n preview: Mobile-first AI

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post #4

Probably a better link: https://developers.googleblog.com/en/introducing-gemma-3n/ Gemma 3n is a model utilizing Per-Layer Embeddings to achieve an on-device memory footprint of a 2-4B parameter model. At the same time, it performs nearly as well as Claude 3.7 Sonnet in Chatbot Arena.

It's not a 4B parameter model. The E4B variant is 7B parameters with 4B loaded into memory when using per-layer embedding cached to fast storage, and without vision or audio support.

The link says E2B and E4B have 4B and 8B raw parameters, where do you see 7B?

Re: Gemma 3n preview: Mobile-first AI

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post #6

What is "Per Layer Embeddings"? The only hit I can find for that term is the announcement blogpost. And for that matter, what is >mix’n’match capability in Gemma 3n to dynamically create submodels It seems like mixture-of-experts taken to the extreme, where you actually create an entire submodel instead of routing per token?

I think that it's a poorly named reference to this paper [1] that they mention in the blogpost. If I had to give it another more descriptive name, I would probably name it "Per-Layer Embedding Dimensionality"

[1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.07707

Re: Gemma 3n preview: Mobile-first AI

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You can try it on Android right now: Download the Edge Gallery apk from github: https://github.com/google-ai-edge/gallery/releases/tag/1.0.0 Download one of the .task files from huggingface: https://huggingface.co/collections/google/gemma-3n-preview-6... Import the .task file in Edge Gallery with the + bottom right. You can take pictures right from the app. The model is indeed pretty fast.

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Re: Gemma 3n preview: Mobile-first AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's understanding.

Sure, if you still think the word has meaning.

Yes, I do. Any way you slice this term, it looks close to what ML models are learning through training.

I'd go as far as saying LLMs are meaning made incarnate - that huge tensor of floats represents a stupidly high-dimensional latent space, which encodes semantic similarity of every token, and combinations of tokens (up to a limit). That's as close as reifying the meaning of "meaning" itself as we ever come.

(It's funny that we got there through brute force instead of developing philosophy, and it's also nice that we get a computational artifact out of it that we can poke and study, instead of incomprehensible and mostly bogus theories.)

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