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Launch HN: Better Auth (YC X25) – Authentication Framework for TypeScript

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Re: Launch HN: Better Auth (YC X25) – Authentication Framework for TypeScript

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Post by hungryhobbit »

motorest wrote: post #52
bekacru wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Not right now, but there’s already an open issue and a PR in progress. - We don’t use JWTs directly, and sessions always require state (it’s not stateless). And yeah, both the client and server handles automatic session refresh. - Yes, we support both multiple sessions or having different organizations open in different tab: https://www.better-auth.com/docs/plugins/multi-session - Yes, that’s possible, you just nee…

> We don’t use JWTs directly Why?

Evidently they prefer to be less secure by default.

Re: Launch HN: Better Auth (YC X25) – Authentication Framework for TypeScript

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Post by portaouflop »

hungryhobbit wrote: post #91
motorest wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> We don’t use JWTs directly Why?

Evidently they prefer to be less secure by default.

JWTs aren’t less or more secure by default see the comments posted above

Re: Launch HN: Better Auth (YC X25) – Authentication Framework for TypeScript

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Post by dang »

jillyboel3 wrote: post #69

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Re: Launch HN: Better Auth (YC X25) – Authentication Framework for TypeScript

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Post by jillyboel3 »

dang wrote: post #93
jillyboel3 wrote: post #69

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Could you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the site guidelines when posting here? Your account has already been breaking them repeatedly, e.g. here and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44030798 . We end up banning accounts that post like that, so please don't. Btw there's no problem with what you were saying about the word fuck*. The problem is with the personal attack/a…

Which personal attack? You mean calling out americans? How is that personal? You also going to ban everyone here who posts disparaging generalizations about europeans? Because so far you haven't been.

As for

> Are you a shill, a troll or just an upset fanboy?

This is a genuine question, not an attack.

Re: Launch HN: Better Auth (YC X25) – Authentication Framework for TypeScript

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Post by joker99 »

macklemoreshair wrote: post #68

One of our devs evaluated you guys and loved it and I do too, but you guys don’t have SCIM support which makes it really hard for us to justify moving to. We moved to an arguably inferior product because telling our product team “you’ll get scim” as part of an auth overhaul is an easier conversation. If you want enterprise customers, I’d recommend nailing down your enterprise feature set~ but the good news is that ou…

Same here, passed on it because of scim

Re: Launch HN: Better Auth (YC X25) – Authentication Framework for TypeScript

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Post by dang »

jillyboel3 wrote: post #94
dang wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the site guidelines when posting here? Your account has already been breaking them repeatedly, e.g. here and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44030798 . We end up banning accounts that post like that, so please don't. Btw there's no problem with what you were saying about the word fuck*. The problem is with the personal attack/a…

Which personal attack? You mean calling out americans? How is that personal? You also going to ban everyone here who posts disparaging generalizations about europeans? Because so far you haven't been. As for > Are you a shill, a troll or just an upset fanboy? This is a genuine question, not an attack.

"Grow up", for starters.

> Are you a shill, a troll or just an upset fanboy?

That's a loaded question and easily enough to count as an attack. This is not a close call!

Re: Launch HN: Better Auth (YC X25) – Authentication Framework for TypeScript

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Post by admiralrohan »

The product looks polished. I have 3 questions:

1. If I am using Supabase for DB, should I use Supabase auth or use Better auth which would anyways use Supabase DB for saving data.

2. When using Supabase auth, they don't give access to the auth.users table and for saving additional user details like country we need a seprate profiles table. If I use Better-auth what should be the approach for saving additional details?

3. How Better Auth Infrastructure is different than Clerk or Supabase auth?

Re: Launch HN: Better Auth (YC X25) – Authentication Framework for TypeScript

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Post by jillyboel3 »

dang wrote: post #96
jillyboel3 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which personal attack? You mean calling out americans? How is that personal? You also going to ban everyone here who posts disparaging generalizations about europeans? Because so far you haven't been. As for > Are you a shill, a troll or just an upset fanboy? This is a genuine question, not an attack.

"Grow up", for starters. > Are you a shill, a troll or just an upset fanboy? That's a loaded question and easily enough to count as an attack. This is not a close call!

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Re: Launch HN: Better Auth (YC X25) – Authentication Framework for TypeScript

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Post by bekacru »

admiralrohan wrote: post #98

The product looks polished. I have 3 questions: 1. If I am using Supabase for DB, should I use Supabase auth or use Better auth which would anyways use Supabase DB for saving data. 2. When using Supabase auth, they don't give access to the auth.users table and for saving additional user details like country we need a seprate profiles table. If I use Better-auth what should be the approach for saving additional detail…

1. Depends on whether you need RLS or not. We're working on improving the Better Auth + Supabase RLS story by collaborating with them, but if you're not relying on RLS for authorization, I’d go with Better Auth. You’ll get more features, and it’ll feel more integrated with your backend rather than your database. Plus, if you ever want to switch database providers you can.

2. Yeah, you’d need to migrate to Better Auth and move your user table to your main schema. We have a migration guide for Supabase.

3. It’s just additional features built on top of the framework, not a 3rd party auth service. You’ll still use the framework, and when you need those features, you can connect it to the infra to enable them.

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