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Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by HappMacDonald »

Tsarp wrote: post #166
shermantanktop wrote: post #148

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Remind me: 20 years Some of us who’ve been in this game for a while consider having healthy hands to be a nice break between episodes of RSI, PT, etc. YMMV of course but your muscle stamina won’t be the problem, it’s your tendons and eventually your joints.

Voice as an interface is a life changer if you've ever had any bit of RSI at any point.

How many of you people having problems with hand health vis a vis typing are still using home row?

I've done more typing than speaking for over 40 years now, and I've never had any carpel tunnel or joint problems with my hands (my feet on the other hand.. hoo boy!) and I've always used a standard layout flat QWERTY keyboard.. but I never bend my hands into that unnatural "home row" position.

I type >60wpm using what 40 years ago was "hunt and peck" and evolved over brute force usage into "my hands know where they keys are, I am right handed so my right hand monopolizes 2/3 of the keyboard, both hands know where every key is so either one can take over the keyboard if the other is unavailable (holding food, holding microphone for when I do do voice work, using mouse, etc)".

But as a result my hands also evolved this bespoke typing strategy which naturally avoids uncomfortable poses and uncomfortable repetition.

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by m3kw9 »

CGamesPlay wrote: post #126
m3kw9 wrote: post #108

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You can turn off auto commit

You can disable the automatic commits, but you cannot disable the automatic modification of files. One nice thing about Claude Code is that you can give it feedback on a patch before it is even applied.

I’m ok with auto commit because I’m ok with just reversing it. Got to make sure you have a branch

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by abtinf »

Demiurge wrote: post #139
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #137

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You guys all sound like you have more hands than I do. And nothing else in them.

My jaw hurts after an hour long meeting. I lose my voice after 2 hours. Can’t say I’ve ever noticed finger fatigue, even after 16 hours of typing and playing guitar. Yeah, I think I’d rather click and type than talk, all day.

> My jaw hurts after an hour long meeting

I’m very sorry for you if this is literally true. I would urge you to seek medical help, as this is not normal at all.

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by k__ »

MrDarcy wrote: post #101
d_watt wrote: post #92

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Aider is definitely in the same camp. Last time I checked, they weren't optimizing for the full "agent infinitely looping until completion" usecase, and didn't have MCP support. But it's 100% the same class of tool and the awesome part of the unixy model is hopefully agents can be substituted in for each other in your pipeline for whichever one is better for the usecase, just like models are interoperable.

I tried aider today with a Gemini API key and billing account. It’s not close to the experience I have with Claude Code on Saturday which was able to implement a full feature. The main difference is I interact with Claude Code only through conversation. Aider felt much more like I was talking to two different tools, the model and Aider. For example, constantly having to add files and parse the less than ideal console…

"Aider felt much more like I was talking to two different tools"

I personally see that as a plus, because other tools are lacking on the tool side. Aider seems to have solid "traditional" engineering behind its tooling.

"constantly having to add files"

That's fair. However, Aider automatically adds files that trigger it via comments and it asks to add the files that are mentioned in the conversation.

"parse the less than ideal console output"

That's fair too. Still, the models aren't there yet, so I value tools that don't hide the potential crap that thee models produce 20-30% of the time.

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by dionian »

Roritharr wrote: post #32
jdmoreira wrote: post #22

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Not sure about that golden end state. Mine would be being in a room surround by screens with AI agents coding, designing, testing, etc. I would be there in the center giving guidance, direction, applying taste, etc… All conversational, wouldn’t need to touch the keyboard 99% of the time. That's what I want and look forward one day

Is this a me thing, or a millenial thing? I hate using voice for anything. I hate getting voice messages, I hate creating them. I get cold sweats just thinking about having to direct 10 AI Agents via voice. Just give me a keyboard and a bunch of screens, thanks.

I would agree but i use voice heavily with AI agents and here is why: no matter how fast i can type, i can speak much faster, and while i do other tasks.

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by fragmede »

dickersnoodle wrote: post #160
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #69

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Or a massive increase in the amount of software that gets written. If the cost of writing software goes down, demand for it will presumably go up...

Only if there is something for that software to do .

How many places have you worked where there's no backlog in Jira and the engineers legitimately have nothing to do other than sit around waiting for work to get assigned ‽

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by fragmede »

energy123 wrote: post #132
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #69

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Or a massive increase in the amount of software that gets written. If the cost of writing software goes down, demand for it will presumably go up...

I would guess it's most likely both. The world could use a lot more software but it's not an unlimited appetite and the increase in productivity of SWEs will depress wages.

Just like chainsaws depressed the wages of lumberjacks, and cars decreased the need for people to move around.

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by troyvit »

dontlikeyoueith wrote: post #109
dakiol wrote: post #95

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No. The "golden" end state of coding agents is free and open source coding agents running on my machine (or in whatever machine I want). Can you imagine paying for every command you run in your terminal? For every `ls`, `ps`, `kill`? No sense, right? Well, same for LLMs. I'm not saying "ban propietary LLMs", I'm saying: hackers (the ones that used to read sites like this) should have as their main tools free and open…

> Can you imagine paying for every command you run in your terminal? Yes, because hardware and electricity aren't free. I literally DO pay for every command. I just don't get an itemized bill so there's no transparency about it. Instead, I made some lump-sum hardware payment which is amortized over the total usage I get out of it, plus some marginal increase in my monthly electric bill when I use it.

Sure but the same thing would apply to the original comment, only that it's a locally hosted LLM that you're buying electricity for. That's different than paying rent for the privilege of using those commands and being at the mercy of the providers who choose to modify or EOL those commands as they see fit.

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by fragmede »

csto12 wrote: post #60
jdmoreira wrote: post #22

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Not sure about that golden end state. Mine would be being in a room surround by screens with AI agents coding, designing, testing, etc. I would be there in the center giving guidance, direction, applying taste, etc… All conversational, wouldn’t need to touch the keyboard 99% of the time. That's what I want and look forward one day

If that’s the future, that means a massive reduction in software engineers no? What you are describing would require one technical product manager, not a team of software engineers.

How hard do you really think the job of “technical product manager” is? I'm not asking in a childish "management doesn't do anything" sort of way, but want to frame the question "if software engineers needed to retrain to be technical product managers, how many would sink, and how many would swim?

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by fragmede »

geertj wrote: post #30
jdmoreira wrote: post #22

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Not sure about that golden end state. Mine would be being in a room surround by screens with AI agents coding, designing, testing, etc. I would be there in the center giving guidance, direction, applying taste, etc… All conversational, wouldn’t need to touch the keyboard 99% of the time. That's what I want and look forward one day

I can easily see this happening in 2-3 years. Some chat apps already have outstanding voice mode, such as GPT-4o. It's just a matter of integrating that voice mode, and getting the understanding and generated code to be /slightly/ better than it is today.

That future's maybe closer than that.

https://zackproser.com/blog/openai-codex-review

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