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Why does the U.S. always run a trade deficit?

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Re: Why does the U.S. always run a trade deficit?

#71
Because the USA has more money than other countries. People outside the US can't afford to buy our products, but we can afford to buy theirs. This is ideal for many people in the US who want cheap $200 flat screen TVs in every room of their house.

This isn't good for unskilled labor in rural parts of America, often in swing states. Manufacturing had always been a place for high school grads to have a decent career. Those days are over with, but politically they decide the election.

Re: Why does the U.S. always run a trade deficit?

#72

Because the USA has more money than other countries. People outside the US can't afford to buy our products, but we can afford to buy theirs. This is ideal for many people in the US who want cheap $200 flat screen TVs in every room of their house. This isn't good for unskilled labor in rural parts of America, often in swing states. Manufacturing had always been a place for high school grads to have a decent career. T…

Perfect answer but it's also important WHY the USA, "has more money than other countries."

It is because we are the only country that prints money at will and forces the rest of the world to use it at gunpoint.

The entire basis of our way of life is essentially printing worthless pieces of paper and digital assets and then literally giving the rest of the world the ultimatum we will kill you if you don't buy and use our currency.

Re: Why does the U.S. always run a trade deficit?

#73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nixon broke Bretton Woods by coming off the gold standard, leading to massive expansion of the money supply. Lyn Alden has good analysis of this process https://www.lynalden.com/fraying-petrodollar-system/

The more I hear about this Nixon feller the less I like him. Seems like a real scoundrel.

he may have had no choice - there are inherent contradictions in every monetary system - there is a reason they all collapse in the end.

Re: Why does the U.S. always run a trade deficit?

#74
> The saving gap perspective tells a contrary story. Investment spending would have been lower if not for the United States being able to borrow from the rest of the world. One can argue that this funding raised the economy’s productive capacity from what it would have been otherwise.

This sounds backwards, I suspect he's being a bit sloppy when he says that. To sustain the trade deficit it was necessary to enormously increase China's productive capacity so that they could build the goods that get shipped to the US. If the US wasn't running a trade deficit the number in the statistics might have been lower, but it is quite likely that the amount of productive capital actually built in the US would have increased and they might have the same amount of real stuff at the end of the day. They could have built a similar amount of production in the US, for example, instead of importing. The accounting identity for that might be a lower number but that doesn't immediately tell us anything about what the real outcome would have looked like.

It is like the situation where nominally China's economy is nominally smaller than the US's, even though as far as the economists can tell China produces more actual stuff. Accounting identities are so basic that they abstract out a lot of important detail vis a vis what an outcome looks like on the ground. Accounting identities always hold, so any situation that can theoretically occur will have a valid accounting identity. It doesn't make sense to rank outcomes by how high investment spending is, it is important to know what real changes would occur. Which identities can't tell us because they are general.

Obviously he is technically correct that he can argue that, but it is insinuating a relationship. This stuff is the bane of central planners, it is nearly impossible to tell in the abstract whether a change in accounting identities was good or bad for productive capacity.

Re: Why does the U.S. always run a trade deficit?

#75

Because the USA has more money than other countries. People outside the US can't afford to buy our products, but we can afford to buy theirs. This is ideal for many people in the US who want cheap $200 flat screen TVs in every room of their house. This isn't good for unskilled labor in rural parts of America, often in swing states. Manufacturing had always been a place for high school grads to have a decent career. T…

Unemployment is low in the US though? what type of jobs do high school grads do? and would working in a (let say) doll factory be a better job for them?

Re: Why does the U.S. always run a trade deficit?

#76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nixon broke Bretton Woods by coming off the gold standard, leading to massive expansion of the money supply. Lyn Alden has good analysis of this process https://www.lynalden.com/fraying-petrodollar-system/

The more I hear about this Nixon feller the less I like him. Seems like a real scoundrel.

Dumping the gold standard was one of the best moves nixon made. The gold standard was directly responsible for untold economic suffering in the country.

Re: Why does the U.S. always run a trade deficit?

#77

Using a national currency as the de facto global reserve guarantees a trade deficit for that country. No one else can manufacture USD's, so other countries have to acquire them by shaping their economies to supply goods and services demanded by the US. They can then use these earned dollars to transact with other countries, as the US itself insists they do. For the US, this is a simple trade off - gain massive politi…

The US isn’t forcing anyone else to use USD. People around the world use USD because they are confident it will help them buy products and services they want in the future.

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Re: Why does the U.S. always run a trade deficit?

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> The saving gap framework helps clarify what trade policies can and can’t do. For example, a free-trade agreement encourages exports, and an industrial policy can foster a re-shoring of production to replace imports. Such policies influence the size and composition of cross-border trade, but the difference between imports and exports is only affected if these policies also change the gap between domestic saving and…

If iphones were charged with US labor costs then nobody would buy them

"If iphones were charged with US labor costs then nobody would buy them"

idk, people pay premium for avocado sandwich

a lof of cali folks certainly would do that

Re: Why does the U.S. always run a trade deficit?

#80

Using a national currency as the de facto global reserve guarantees a trade deficit for that country. No one else can manufacture USD's, so other countries have to acquire them by shaping their economies to supply goods and services demanded by the US. They can then use these earned dollars to transact with other countries, as the US itself insists they do. For the US, this is a simple trade off - gain massive politi…

The US dollar was the global reserve currency in the 1960s but the US was running a trade surplus then.

Remnants of the massive industrial effort of WW2 plus China/Japan had not entered the chat yet.
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