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As I see it, the solution to this is to invest in open source. As for a "survival situation", a solar-powered laptop with a locally running LLM would definitely be the first item on my list.
It shouldn't be, because LLM:s can't be trusted in the way literature can. People around you are also going to question why you insist on such a power hungry setup.
Jules: An asynchronous coding agent
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> Google’s ability to offer inference for free is a massive competitive advantage vs everyone else: Haven't tried Jules myself yet, still playing around with Codex, but personally I don't really care if it's free or not. If it solves my problems better than the others, then I'll use it, otherwise I'll use other things. I'm sure I'm not alone in focusing on how well it works, rather than what it costs (until a certain…
Technically speaking,the strategy they execute is called "Loss Leader". As Loss Leader, the company offers a product at a reduced price to attract users, create stickiness, and through that aims to capture the market. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/lossleader.asp
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#143I was interested. Clicked the try button and just another wait list. When will Google learn that the method that worked so well with Gmail doesn't work any more. There are so many shiny toys to play with now, I will have forgotten about this tomorrow.
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#144I used Jules three times today, very impressive! It also handles coding-adjacent work. Good github integrations.
How does it validate that what it writes works? Does it try to run tests or compile?
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I'll just put this here: > And so it is that you by reason of your tender regard for the writing that is your offspring have declared the very opposite of its true effect. If men learn this, it will implant forgetfulness in their souls. They will cease to exercise memory because they rely on that which is written, calling things to remembrance no longer from within themselves, but by means of external marks. > What y…
Hm, I think Plato is largely true; not in the sense that writing is a harmful crutch, but in the sense that simply being able to read something is not a substitute for knowing it. I think we can see that at play here on HN and on the larger internet all the time: people who read a paper or article, and then attempt to discuss it, without realizing that their understanding of the material is entirely incorrect. These…
If were to rephrase it, I would put the distinction not between teaching and reading, but between passive consumption and active learning.
EDIT: Thinking more about having a world class philosopher as a personal tutor, I suddenly remembered a quote from Russell that took me a while to track down, but here it is:
> In 343 B.C. he [Aristotle] became tutor to Alexander, then thirteen years old, and continued in that position until, at the age of sixteen ... Everything one would wish to know of the relations of Aristotle and Alexander is unascertainable, the more so as legends were soon invented on the subject. There are letters between them which are generally regarded as forgeries. People who admire both men suppose that the tutor influenced the pupil. Hegel thinks that Alexander's career shows the practical usefulness of philosophy. As to this, A. W. Benn says: "It would be unfortunate if philosophy had no better testimonial to show for herself than the character of Alexander. . . . Arrogant, drunken, cruel, vindictive, and grossly superstitious, he united the vices of a Highland chieftain to the frenzy of an Oriental despot."
> ... As to Aristotle's influence on him, we are left free to conjecture whatever seems to us most plausible. For my part, I should suppose it nil.
- "A History of Western Philosophy" by Bertrand Russell, Chapter XIX p. 160
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#147The copy though: "Spend your time doing what you want to do!" followed by images of play video games (I presume), ride a bicycle, read a book, and play table tennis. I am cool with all of that but it feels like they're suggesting that coding is a chore to be avoided, rather than a creative and enjoyable activity.
Also implying I wouldn't want to fix bugs or colleague's code, those are the things I love most about being a developer. Also I don't mind version bumping at all and the only reason why I "don't like" writing tests is that writing "good" tests is the hardest thing for me in development (knowing what to test for and why, knowing what to mock and when, the constant feeling that I'm forgetting an edge case...) and AI st…
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So absurd. As if your boss is going to let you go play tennis during the day because Jules is doing your work. If all of these tools really do make people 20-100% more productive like they say (I doubt it) the value is going to accrue to ownership, not to labor.
Shhhh... don't tell the plebes what it really means to "2x their productivity". Seriously though, this kind of tech-assisted work output improvement has happened many times in the past, and by now we should all have been working 4-hour weeks, but we all know how it has actually worked out.
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And if you don't sign up quickly after your turn in the queue comes up, you might miss the service altogether, because Google will have shut it down already.
And if you are from Germany you can't even join the list. First I needed to verify it is really me. Get a confirmation code to my recovery mail. Get a code to my cell phone number. And than all I got is a service restricted message.