Can anyone provide a reason an enterprise would choose Grok over a similar class of models?
Well, for instance, imagine that you're the CEO of IG Farben.
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#172The desire to be "centrist" on HN is perplexing to me. The fact that Elon, a white south african, made his AI go crazy by adding some text about "white genocide", is factual and should be taken into consideration if you want to have an honest discussion about ethics in tech. Pretending like you can't evaluate the technology politically because it's "biased" is just a separate bias, one in defence of whoever controls…
First, I think the fact that grok basically refused to comply with those hamfisted instructions is a positive signal in the whole mess. How do you know other models are just as heavily skewed but just less open about them? The real alignment issue today is not about AGI, but about hidden biases. Second, your comments comes across as if "centrist" has a bad connotation, almost as code for someone of lesser moral virtu…
> First, I think the fact that grok basically refused to comply with those hamfisted instructions is a positive signal in the whole mess.
I mean, _maybe_ about LLMs in general, in an abstract sense, if you're deeply concerned with LLM alignment. But not about grok, because it's an otherwise fairly generic LLM that is run by a company _so incompetent that it made said hamfisted instructions, or allowed them to be made_. Like, even beyond the ethics, the whole episode (and the subsequent holocaust-denial one) speaks to a totally broken organisation.
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> While they didn’t say who modified it. It’s hard to believe it wasn’t Elon. Is it really that hard to understand how these things happen? The boss says "remove bias" but the peons don't really know how to do that and the naive approach to unbiasing a thing is to introduce bias in the other direction. And then if you're Google and the boss thinks it has a right-wing bias you crook it and get black Nazis and if you'r…
Except someone clearly wanted Grok to talk about some very specific South African phrases and events , not just “remove bias” in the general sense.
That's precisely how the arithmetic theory of bias operates. That bias doesn't actually work that way is why applying it causes such ridiculous outcomes.
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Be careful saying things like that or you'll get [flagged] - discussion of what seemed an incredibly important subject is forbidden on here it seems.
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Effective Altruism is still great, and never stopped being great. Guilt does not transfer by association in this way.
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#175It still seems to have the problems most other LLMs suffer with except Gemini: it loses context so quickly. I asked it about a paper I was looking at (SLOG [0]) and it basically lost the context of what "slog" referred to after 3 prompts. 1. I asked for an example transaction illustrating the key advantages of the SLOG approach. It responded with some general DB transaction stuff. 2. I then said "no use slog like we…
The paid version "SuperGrok" has a larger context window, but nothing beats Gemini for that.
I tried your question with SuperGrok. Here's the result.
https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_d298dd12-9942-411c-900c-2994...
I use Grok for similar tasks and usually prefer Grok's explanations. Easier to understand.
For some problems where I've asked Grok to use formal logical reasoning I have seen Grok outperform both Gemini 2.5 Pro and ChatGPT-o3. It is well trained on logic.
I've seen Grok generate more detailed and accurate descriptions of images that I uploaded. Grok is natively multimodal.
There is no single LLM that outperforms all of the others at all tasks. I've seen all of the frontier models strongly outperform each other at specific tasks. If I was forced to use only one, that would be Gemini 2.5 Pro (for now) because it can process a million tokens and generate much longer output than the others.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Be careful saying things like that or you'll get [flagged] - discussion of what seemed an incredibly important subject is forbidden on here it seems.
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HN crowd is ... mixed, it's perhaps the one last true melting pot we have on the Internet. A curse and a blessing, if you ask me.
You got truly anything here. Europeans that in general tend to lean more towards "democratic socialism" and its various offshoots, American libertarians (which have a large intersection with Musk fanboys), a bunch of extremely rich startup founders, American progressives, conservatives of all kinds, Zionists and Hamas apologists, probably Russian and Chinese psy-ops, accelerationists, preppers... name any ideology and you'll find supporters on HN.
What has changed a bit is that tribalism seems to have taken over from civilized or at least arguments and fact oriented discourse. Personally, I'd prefer if downvotes and especially flags would require one to give a reason so that repeat offenders that just flag and downvote everything they disagree with can get suspended for ruining discussion.
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Effective Altruism is still great, and never stopped being great. Guilt does not transfer by association in this way.
It's not. Feeding kids, researching vaccines and a bunch of other things that billionaires are funding should not depend on the graces and whims of billionaires, it should be something provided for by the government.
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Lmfao. Why would anyone care about Musk's politics when using Azure + Grok. If it's good for the job, it's good for the job.
Could say the same about Tesla cars, yet they don't sell that well any more.
i'd guess that it has more to do with the fact that people keep vandalising them rather than individuals suddenly picking buying teslas as the one thing to take a stand against when this never seems to happen in any effective capacity for other issues.
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https://x.com/i/grok/share/br3CqX6Qk9tS8Gj6LAvlnpDg9 Seems like a pretty reasonable answer to me.
It isn't though because its not a complex and nuanced issue whatsoever. It's no different than teaching the controversy about evolution or seeing both sides of the holocaust. It is part of a planned coup against our government. Furthermore if you push it then it stops responding and refuses to answer at all.
I see. You WANT a slanted LLM, just one that's slanted in your direction!
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HN crowd is ... mixed, it's perhaps the one last true melting pot we have on the Internet. A curse and a blessing, if you ask me. You got truly anything here. Europeans that in general tend to lean more towards "democratic socialism" and its various offshoots, American libertarians (which have a large intersection with Musk fanboys), a bunch of extremely rich startup founders, American progressives, conservatives of…
Interesting how you put "hamas apologists" and not pro-palestinians next to Zionists. How would you have felt if it was written "pro-palestinains and genocide-apologists"?