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This article doesn't mention Mossad, though. Do you have any other sources?
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DDoSecrets publishes 410 GB of heap dumps, hacked from TeleMessage
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Re: DDoSecrets publishes 410 GB of heap dumps, hacked from TeleMessage
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would the company be embarrassed? The users (i.e. high level U.S. officials) did no due diligence. Of course a private company is going to take the easiest and cheapest route. If it goes bad, just shut down and spin up a new entity. Some speculate this was intentional intelligence gathering by the Israelis which is plausible too.
> Some speculate this was intentional intelligence gathering by the Israelis which is plausible too. How does this make sense? If they were gathering data, why would they add a public download? Surely the Israeli officials would not want foreign powers to access this? Per Hanlon's razor, I don't think this is attributable to anything other than incompetence.
Two things can be true at once. Them using their access to unencrypted messages for nefarious purposes and them being incompetent at the same time leaving that endpoint open.
Re: DDoSecrets publishes 410 GB of heap dumps, hacked from TeleMessage
#33Re: DDoSecrets publishes 410 GB of heap dumps, hacked from TeleMessage
#34> Because the data is sensitive and full of PII, DDoSecrets is only sharing it with journalists and researchers. Yeah I'm normally a big proponent of responsible disclosure, but in this case, I think the more painful, damaging leak is required. Firstly, autocrats, fascists & oligarchs don't care that much if you hack them. They will just keep using these tools (or another one just like it) ignoring the correct proced…
> The citizens of affected nations need to be made angry by their leaders' failure to do their jobs correctly, and that's only gonna happen when there are consequences for their actions. This is a really dangerous line of thinking. It's the line of thought that slides forwards to "I love America so much, but to save America I have to get Americans to really feel the pain, and to do that I need to to them to wake them…
You're describing accelerationism and while the ethics behind it are iffy at best, history contends that it does work to help spur revolution.
Re: DDoSecrets publishes 410 GB of heap dumps, hacked from TeleMessage
#35Re: DDoSecrets publishes 410 GB of heap dumps, hacked from TeleMessage
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would the company be embarrassed? The users (i.e. high level U.S. officials) did no due diligence. Of course a private company is going to take the easiest and cheapest route. If it goes bad, just shut down and spin up a new entity. Some speculate this was intentional intelligence gathering by the Israelis which is plausible too.
> Some speculate this was intentional intelligence gathering by the Israelis which is plausible too. How does this make sense? If they were gathering data, why would they add a public download? Surely the Israeli officials would not want foreign powers to access this? Per Hanlon's razor, I don't think this is attributable to anything other than incompetence.
I mean, one doesn’t preclude the other. This could be an incompetent intentional intelligence gathering.
Re: DDoSecrets publishes 410 GB of heap dumps, hacked from TeleMessage
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why would the company be embarrassed? The users (i.e. high level U.S. officials) did no due diligence. Of course a private company is going to take the easiest and cheapest route. If it goes bad, just shut down and spin up a new entity. Some speculate this was intentional intelligence gathering by the Israelis which is plausible too.
> Some speculate this was intentional intelligence gathering by the Israelis which is plausible too. How does this make sense? If they were gathering data, why would they add a public download? Surely the Israeli officials would not want foreign powers to access this? Per Hanlon's razor, I don't think this is attributable to anything other than incompetence.
There’s room for both sides of the razor. The heapdumpz could be there maliciously, but incompetently made globally accessible.
Re: DDoSecrets publishes 410 GB of heap dumps, hacked from TeleMessage
#38Security standards need to start banning heap dumps.
Re: DDoSecrets publishes 410 GB of heap dumps, hacked from TeleMessage
#39> Because the data is sensitive and full of PII, DDoSecrets is only sharing it with journalists and researchers. Yeah I'm normally a big proponent of responsible disclosure, but in this case, I think the more painful, damaging leak is required. Firstly, autocrats, fascists & oligarchs don't care that much if you hack them. They will just keep using these tools (or another one just like it) ignoring the correct proced…
Completely agree.
We had the Cabinet Leaks in Aus https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-31/cabinet-files-reveal-...
The national broadcaster picked 2 things to report on, then gave the rest of it back to the government.
The act of helping cover this shit up likely changed the course of politics in this country for decades. Theres likely stuff in that cabinet that was well in the public interest and needed disclosure.
Signalgate or whatever is likely the same. And I dont care which party it harms or whatever. It seems relevant that people should have more information, not less considering everything that is happening.
Re: DDoSecrets publishes 410 GB of heap dumps, hacked from TeleMessage
#40Security standards need to start banning heap dumps.
Something tells me that wouldn’t make a huge difference in some of these companies opsec.