xAI's Grok 3 comes to Microsoft Azure

Post by HarHarVeryFunny » Mon, May 19, 2025, 11:17 PM UTC

oceanplexian wrote: post #69

HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually the first versions of Grok had the same "left leaning" bias as other models since it turns out that bias is in the data that everyone is using to train on), so if Grok is now more right leaning it is because they have deliberately manipulated it to be so. This also begs the question, does it make sense to call something a "bias" when that is the majority view (i.e. reflected in bulk of training data) ?

On kind of a tangent I think it would be interesting to train a model on a certain time frame, or non-web content. Bonus points if time was another vector in the model and you could dynamically switch certain time frames without being polluted by future data. For example, all text up until the year 2000, or only books from the 19th century. I’d pay good money to have access to a model with the ability to “time travel…

Post by sergiotapia » Mon, May 19, 2025, 11:56 PM UTC

sambeau wrote: post #10

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Post by tmpz22 » Tue, May 20, 2025, 1:00 AM UTC

vasusen wrote: post #82

dbreunig wrote: post #18

Can anyone provide a reason an enterprise would choose Grok over a similar class of models?

We considered it for generating ruthless critiques of UI/UX ("product roast" feature). Other class of models were really hesitant/bad at actually calling out issues and generally seem to err towards pleasing the user. Here's a simple example I tried just now. Grok correctly removed mushrooms, but Chatgpt continues to try adding everything (I assume to be more compliant with the user): I only have pineapples, mushroom…

Post by thinkcontext » Tue, May 20, 2025, 1:32 AM UTC

sorcerer-mar wrote: post #44

mullingitover wrote: post #16

I can't think of a less trustworthy group of people on model alignment. They claimed that they had a rogue actor who deployed their 'white genocide' prompt, but that either means they have zero technical controls in their release pipeline (unforgivable at their scale) or they are lying (unforgivable given their level of responsibility). The prompt issue is a canary in the coal mine, it signals that they will absolute…

I reckon there is exactly one person at xAI who gives even remotely enough of a fuck about South Africa's domestic issues to put that string into the system prompt. We all know who it is.

Post by _ea1k » Tue, May 20, 2025, 1:44 AM UTC

mullingitover wrote: post #16

I can't think of a less trustworthy group of people on model alignment. They claimed that they had a rogue actor who deployed their 'white genocide' prompt, but that either means they have zero technical controls in their release pipeline (unforgivable at their scale) or they are lying (unforgivable given their level of responsibility). The prompt issue is a canary in the coal mine, it signals that they will absolute…