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Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by MrDarcy »

d_watt wrote: post #92
k__ wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't you have that already? Put the Aider CLI into a GitHub action that's triggered by an issue creation and you're good to go.

Aider is definitely in the same camp. Last time I checked, they weren't optimizing for the full "agent infinitely looping until completion" usecase, and didn't have MCP support. But it's 100% the same class of tool and the awesome part of the unixy model is hopefully agents can be substituted in for each other in your pipeline for whichever one is better for the usecase, just like models are interoperable.

I tried aider today with a Gemini API key and billing account. It’s not close to the experience I have with Claude Code on Saturday which was able to implement a full feature.

The main difference is I interact with Claude Code only through conversation. Aider felt much more like I was talking to two different tools, the model and Aider. For example, constantly having to add files and parse the less than ideal console output compared to how Claude code handles user feedback.

Re: Claude Code SDK

#102

Post by cortesoft »

jdmoreira wrote: post #22
d_watt wrote: post #8

The way Claude Code is going is exactly what I want out of a agentic coding tool with this "unix toolish" philosophy. I've been using Claude code since the initial public preview release, and have seen the direction over time. The "golden" end state of coding agents is that you give it a Feature Request (EG Jira ticket), and it gives you a PR to review and give feedback on. Cursor, windsurf, etc, are dead ends in tha…

Not sure about that golden end state. Mine would be being in a room surround by screens with AI agents coding, designing, testing, etc. I would be there in the center giving guidance, direction, applying taste, etc… All conversational, wouldn’t need to touch the keyboard 99% of the time. That's what I want and look forward one day

Basically the Star Trek model of computing.

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by cortesoft »

belter wrote: post #79
StefanBatory wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Offshoring team? No, any team.

Including the management team?

Yes. You are seriously overestimating the power most management has. If ownership could build a company without them, they would in a heartbeat.

Management only appears to have power because ownership wants workers to point their ire to them instead of at the real power.

Re: Claude Code SDK

#104

Post by ryandrake »

pjmlp wrote: post #72
d_watt wrote: post #8

The way Claude Code is going is exactly what I want out of a agentic coding tool with this "unix toolish" philosophy. I've been using Claude code since the initial public preview release, and have seen the direction over time. The "golden" end state of coding agents is that you give it a Feature Request (EG Jira ticket), and it gives you a PR to review and give feedback on. Cursor, windsurf, etc, are dead ends in tha…

The moment I am able to outsource work for Jira tickets to a level that AI actually delivers a reasonable pull request, many corporate managers will seriously wonder why keep the offshoring team around.

It seems like the Holy Grail here has become: "A business is one person, the CEO, sitting at his desk doing deals and directing virtual and physical agents to do accounting, run factories, manage R&D, run marketing campaigns, everything." That's it. A single CEO, (maybe) a lawyer, and a big AI/robotics bill = every business. No pesky employees to pay. That's the ultimate end game here, that's what these guys want. Is that what we want?

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by rco8786 »

jdmoreira wrote: post #22
d_watt wrote: post #8

The way Claude Code is going is exactly what I want out of a agentic coding tool with this "unix toolish" philosophy. I've been using Claude code since the initial public preview release, and have seen the direction over time. The "golden" end state of coding agents is that you give it a Feature Request (EG Jira ticket), and it gives you a PR to review and give feedback on. Cursor, windsurf, etc, are dead ends in tha…

Not sure about that golden end state. Mine would be being in a room surround by screens with AI agents coding, designing, testing, etc. I would be there in the center giving guidance, direction, applying taste, etc… All conversational, wouldn’t need to touch the keyboard 99% of the time. That's what I want and look forward one day

It seems unlikely that any one individual would be able to output a sufficient amount of context for that to not go off the rails really quickly (or just be extremely inefficient as most agents sit idle waiting for verification of their work)

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by ModernMech »

ryandrake wrote: post #104
pjmlp wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The moment I am able to outsource work for Jira tickets to a level that AI actually delivers a reasonable pull request, many corporate managers will seriously wonder why keep the offshoring team around.

It seems like the Holy Grail here has become: "A business is one person, the CEO, sitting at his desk doing deals and directing virtual and physical agents to do accounting, run factories, manage R&D, run marketing campaigns, everything." That's it. A single CEO, (maybe) a lawyer, and a big AI/robotics bill = every business. No pesky employees to pay. That's the ultimate end game here, that's what these guys want. Is…

Keep going, the end end goal is that even the customers are AI. And the company doesn't sell anything or do anything, it just trades NFTs and stocks and digital goods. And the money isn't real, it's all crypto. This is the ideal, to create nothing, to sell nothing to no one, and for somehow that to mean you created "value" to society and therefore should be rewarded in material terms. And greatly at that, the people setting all this up expect to be at the tippy top of the social ladder for this "contribution".

This is I guess what happens when you follow capitalism to its logical conclusion. It's exactly what you expect from some reinforcement learning algorithm that only knows how to climb a gradient to maximize a singular reward. The concept of commerce has become the proverbial rat in the skinner box. It has figured out how to mainline the heroin drip if it just holds down the shock button and rewires its brain to get off on the pain. Sure it's an artificial high and hurts like hell to achieve it, but what else is there to live for? We made the line going up mean everything, so that's all that matters now. Doesn't matter if we don't want it, they want it. So that's what it's going to be.

Re: Claude Code SDK

#107

Post by jacob019 »

hztar wrote: post #86
anotherpaulg wrote: post #49

Aider has had support for Python and shell scripting [0] for a long time. I made a screencast [1] recently that included ad-hoc bash scripting aider as part of the effort to add support for 130 new programming languages. It may give a flavor for how powerful this approach can be. [0] https://aider.chat/docs/scripting.html [1] https://aider.chat/docs/recordings/tree-sitter-language-pack...

Freaking love Aider. MCPs are supported soon as well. Testing a development branch. Then you can actually develop end to end using PR, tickets etc using models you trust.

That's great news! Love Aider too and that's the main thing that's missing right now. Oh the things I will build.

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by m3kw9 »

unshavedyak wrote: post #71
anotherpaulg wrote: post #49

Aider has had support for Python and shell scripting [0] for a long time. I made a screencast [1] recently that included ad-hoc bash scripting aider as part of the effort to add support for 130 new programming languages. It may give a flavor for how powerful this approach can be. [0] https://aider.chat/docs/scripting.html [1] https://aider.chat/docs/recordings/tree-sitter-language-pack...

How close can you get Aider to Claude Code? Ie i liked the Claude Code UX, but i don't use it because i prefer Gemini 2.5 Pro. I don't really want it committing and stuff, i mostly like the UX of Claude Code. Thoughts?

You can turn off auto commit

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by dontlikeyoueith »

dakiol wrote: post #95
d_watt wrote: post #8

The way Claude Code is going is exactly what I want out of a agentic coding tool with this "unix toolish" philosophy. I've been using Claude code since the initial public preview release, and have seen the direction over time. The "golden" end state of coding agents is that you give it a Feature Request (EG Jira ticket), and it gives you a PR to review and give feedback on. Cursor, windsurf, etc, are dead ends in tha…

No. The "golden" end state of coding agents is free and open source coding agents running on my machine (or in whatever machine I want). Can you imagine paying for every command you run in your terminal? For every `ls`, `ps`, `kill`? No sense, right? Well, same for LLMs. I'm not saying "ban propietary LLMs", I'm saying: hackers (the ones that used to read sites like this) should have as their main tools free and open…

> Can you imagine paying for every command you run in your terminal?

Yes, because hardware and electricity aren't free.

I literally DO pay for every command. I just don't get an itemized bill so there's no transparency about it. Instead, I made some lump-sum hardware payment which is amortized over the total usage I get out of it, plus some marginal increase in my monthly electric bill when I use it.

Re: Claude Code SDK

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Post by breckenedge »

d_watt wrote: post #8

The way Claude Code is going is exactly what I want out of a agentic coding tool with this "unix toolish" philosophy. I've been using Claude code since the initial public preview release, and have seen the direction over time. The "golden" end state of coding agents is that you give it a Feature Request (EG Jira ticket), and it gives you a PR to review and give feedback on. Cursor, windsurf, etc, are dead ends in tha…

> Cursor, windsurf, etc, are dead ends in that sense as they are local editors, and can not be in CI.

I was doing this with Cursor and MCPs. Got about a full day of this before I was rate limited and dropped to the slowest, dumbest model. I’ve done it with Claude too and quickly exhaust my rate limits. And the PRs are only “good to go” about 25% of the time, and it’s often faster to just do it right than find out where the AI screwed up.

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