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Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by diggan »

mountainriver wrote: post #17

Any coding solution that doesn’t offer the ability to edit the code in an IDE is nonsense. Why would I ever want this over cursor? The sync thing is kinda cool but I basically already do this with cursor

Heh, personally I'd say any coding solution that lives inside an IDE is nonsense :P Funny how perspectives can be so different. I want something standalone, that I can use in in a pane to the left/right of my already opened nvim instance, or even further away than that. Gave Cursor a try some weeks ago but seems worse than Aider even, and having an entire editor just for some LLM edits/pair programming seems way overkill and unnecessary.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by ramesh31 »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #15
_pdp_ wrote: post #9

The copy though: "Spend your time doing what you want to do!" followed by images of play video games (I presume), ride a bicycle, read a book, and play table tennis. I am cool with all of that but it feels like they're suggesting that coding is a chore to be avoided, rather than a creative and enjoyable activity.

That's a nuance worth exploring. The world is being optimized for clockwatchers who want to do their work with the least amount of effort. Before long (if not already) people who enjoy their craft, and think of their work as a craft, will be ridiculed for wanting to do it themselves.

>The world is being optimized for clockwatchers who want to do their work with the least amount of effort. Before long (if not already) people who enjoy their craft, and think of their work as a craft, will be ridiculed for wanting to do it themselves.

There is one clock you should be watching regardless, which is the clock of your life. Your code will not come see you in the hospital, or cheer you up when you're having a rough day. You wont be sitting around at 70 wishing you had spent more 3am nights debugging something. When your back gives out from 18hrs a day of grinding at a desk to get something out, and you can barely walk from the sciatica, you wont be thinking about that great new feature you shipped. There are far more important things in life once you come to terms with that, and you will learn that the whole point of the former is enabling the latter.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

I really want to try out Google's new Gemini 2.5 Pro model that everyone says is so great at coding. However, the fact that Jules runs in cloud-based VMs instead of on my local machine makes it much less useful to me than Claude Code, even if the model was better.

The projects I work on have lots of bespoke build scripts and other stuff that is specific to my machine and environment. Making that work in Google's cloud VM would be a significant undertaking in itself.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by diggan »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #19
diggan wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google’s ability to offer inference for free is a massive competitive advantage vs everyone else: Haven't tried Jules myself yet, still playing around with Codex, but personally I don't really care if it's free or not. If it solves my problems better than the others, then I'll use it, otherwise I'll use other things. I'm sure I'm not alone in focusing on how well it works, rather than what it costs (until a certain…

That's all good and well but its takes time to compare the products. And people are rarely willing to use paid product for comparison.

> That's all good and well but its takes time to compare the products

Hence many of us are still busy trying out Codex to it's full extent :)

> And people are rarely willing to use paid product for comparison.

Yeah, and I'm usually the same, unless there is some free trial or similar, I'm unlikely to spend money unless I know it's good.

My own calculation changed with the coming of better LLMs though. Even paying 200 EUR/month can be easily regained if you're say a freelance software engineer, so I'm starting to be a lot more flexible in "try for one month" subscriptions.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by dcre »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #23

I really want to try out Google's new Gemini 2.5 Pro model that everyone says is so great at coding. However, the fact that Jules runs in cloud-based VMs instead of on my local machine makes it much less useful to me than Claude Code, even if the model was better. The projects I work on have lots of bespoke build scripts and other stuff that is specific to my machine and environment. Making that work in Google's clou…

You can use Aider with Gemini. All you need is an API key.

https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by 85392_school »

> Also, you can get caught up fast. Jules creates an audio summary of the changes.

This is an unusual angle. Of course Google can do this because they have the tech behind NotebookLM, but I'm not sure what the value of telling you how your prompt was implemented is.

Re: Jules: An asynchronous coding agent

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Post by 85392_school »

thorum wrote: post #4

Google’s ability to offer inference for free is a massive competitive advantage vs everyone else: > Is Jules free of charge? > Yes, for now, Jules is free of charge. Jules is in beta and available without payment while we learn from usage. In the future, we expect to introduce pricing, but our focus right now is improving the developer experience. https://jules-documentation.web.app/faq

There are some limits:

> 2 concurrent tasks

> 5 total tasks per day

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