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Re: Wikipedia's Most Translated Articles

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The word "translated" isn't correct here, as the articles may not be translations of other articles.

I concur. Most Wikipedia articles in different languages on the same topic are not translations of each other, in my experience. It is better to think of them as independent of each other.

Re: Wikipedia's Most Translated Articles

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Wikipedia is one of the pinnacles of human knowledge and achievement across all cultures and time and space, as much as people try to sue them and get content taken down the set of laws and protections it enjoys is a true moral and technological good. It saddens me that we will probably see the end of wikipedia soon. The Wikimedia Foundation has been fined multiple times by Russian courts for example, it's just not i…

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post #31
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The word "translated" isn't correct here, as the articles may not be translations of other articles.

I concur. Most Wikipedia articles in different languages on the same topic are not translations of each other, in my experience. It is better to think of them as independent of each other.

In my experience, "simple translations" are even explicitly discouraged in at least some language versions of Wikipedia.

Re: Wikipedia's Most Translated Articles

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Wikipedia is one of the pinnacles of human knowledge and achievement across all cultures and time and space, as much as people try to sue them and get content taken down the set of laws and protections it enjoys is a true moral and technological good. It saddens me that we will probably see the end of wikipedia soon. The Wikimedia Foundation has been fined multiple times by Russian courts for example, it's just not i…

The value of Wikipedia is provided mostly by its community of users, not any assets owned by the Wikimedia Foundation. All legal entities currently associated with Wikipedia could be completely seized and shut down; all it takes for it to be reborn is a critical mass of engaged users picking a new domain to rehost the content and telling everyone about it.

Re: Wikipedia's Most Translated Articles

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Wikipedia is one of the pinnacles of human knowledge and achievement across all cultures and time and space, as much as people try to sue them and get content taken down the set of laws and protections it enjoys is a true moral and technological good. It saddens me that we will probably see the end of wikipedia soon. The Wikimedia Foundation has been fined multiple times by Russian courts for example, it's just not i…

Humanity clearly must not go down this path, yet it does nothing to alter its trajectory. Those who study history are doomed to watch it repeat. It's hard not to develop distain for the collective stupidity, but more enraging is the impotent passivity of the best and the brightest. We seem unable to imagine a reachable future that is worth imagining, the daunting scale of our global problems stupefying us. I'd love t…

Recently, I found myself in a sadness for the lack of changes I was capable of making to our life’s systemic dysfunctions - be it natural or artificial - and found my time was much better spent improving the lives around me directly, individually or in small groups.

I’ve long had the philosophy that the world has enough problems and that it’s not my place to add to them, but this philosophy also gave me a motivation to move mountains for solutions - and would be upset when I inevitably couldn’t. I think this perspective has been the best middle ground between what I’m capable of, and what I want to accomplish.

Re: Wikipedia's Most Translated Articles

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Wikipedia is one of the pinnacles of human knowledge and achievement across all cultures and time and space, as much as people try to sue them and get content taken down the set of laws and protections it enjoys is a true moral and technological good. It saddens me that we will probably see the end of wikipedia soon. The Wikimedia Foundation has been fined multiple times by Russian courts for example, it's just not i…

> It saddens me that we will probably see the end of wikipedia soon... I expect the slow ramp of anti wikipedia rhetoric... Now that college students are using completely unsourced...

Where is this doom and gloom coming from?

Wikipedia isn't ending. Legal challenges can be dealt with as they always have, and in the worst-case scenario the org can move countries if necessary. I can't even imagine why you "expect the slow ramp of anti wikipedia rhetoric". Where is this coming from? Even if something happened to the org, some other org can clone it -- content and infrastructure and all.

And college students still have to cite their sources, and I don't even know what that has to do with Wikipedia, which isn't something any college student should be citing directly anyways.

Your pessimism doesn't seem to be based on any kind of facts, unless I'm missing something here? Especially with the inaccuracies of LLM's, people continue to care about correct knowledge, and so people will continue to use and update Wikipedia. Heck, LLM's may even make Wikipedia more important than it's ever been before.

Re: Wikipedia's Most Translated Articles

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Wikipedia is one of the pinnacles of human knowledge and achievement across all cultures and time and space, as much as people try to sue them and get content taken down the set of laws and protections it enjoys is a true moral and technological good. It saddens me that we will probably see the end of wikipedia soon. The Wikimedia Foundation has been fined multiple times by Russian courts for example, it's just not i…

> It saddens me that we will probably see the end of wikipedia soon... I expect the slow ramp of anti wikipedia rhetoric... Now that college students are using completely unsourced... Where is this doom and gloom coming from? Wikipedia isn't ending. Legal challenges can be dealt with as they always have, and in the worst-case scenario the org can move countries if necessary. I can't even imagine why you "expect the s…

> Your pessimism doesn't seem to be based on any kind of facts, unless I'm missing something here

Yes, the slow ramp of anti Wikipedia rhetoric is a documented fact, in both Russia and the USA: https://gizmodo.com/trump-doj-threatens-wikipedias-nonprofit...

Re: Wikipedia's Most Translated Articles

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Definitely working off an incomplete data set from wikidata. According to the wikidata, there are no articles for the United States in whatever languages VEP, GUR, and UR are, but: https://vep.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerikan_%C3%9Chtenzoittud_Va... https://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B1%DB%8C%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA... https://gur.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_America Ended up being fairly easy to look for - I compared the…

I mean, they also self report here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_articles_w...
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