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New research reveals the strongest solar event ever detected, in 12350 BC

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Re: New research reveals the strongest solar event ever detected, in 12350 BC

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JumpCrisscross wrote: post #26
ggm wrote: post #3

This would not have been kind to any RF/EMF systems, be they GEO, LEO or terrestrial. We'd have been walking around marvelling at st elmo's fire coming off any point-contact junction between metal or exposed metal structure, with the most fantastic skies at night. On the other hand, would allergy sufferers be marvelling at the removal of all the dust and pollen? This would be like the outdoors becoming a giant anti-s…

> would allergy sufferers be marvelling at the removal of all the dust and pollen? This would be like the outdoors becoming a giant anti-static dust remover How do solar flares render pollen groundborne?

How did research on the solar event find a layer deposited in what is undoubtedly surface not upper atmosphere?

Re: New research reveals the strongest solar event ever detected, in 12350 BC

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

ggm wrote: post #31
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> would allergy sufferers be marvelling at the removal of all the dust and pollen? This would be like the outdoors becoming a giant anti-static dust remover How do solar flares render pollen groundborne?

How did research on the solar event find a layer deposited in what is undoubtedly surface not upper atmosphere?

> How did research on the solar event find a layer deposited in what is undoubtedly surface not upper atmosphere?

FTFA: "Solar particle storms can greatly enhance the normal production of cosmogenic isotopes like radiocarbon (14C) in the atmosphere by galactic cosmic rays. Such enhanced production, preserved in annual tree rings, serves as a clear cosmic timestamp making possible absolute dating of tree samples."

Re: New research reveals the strongest solar event ever detected, in 12350 BC

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Post by hattar »

brookst wrote: post #16
ggm wrote: post #3

This would not have been kind to any RF/EMF systems, be they GEO, LEO or terrestrial. We'd have been walking around marvelling at st elmo's fire coming off any point-contact junction between metal or exposed metal structure, with the most fantastic skies at night. On the other hand, would allergy sufferers be marvelling at the removal of all the dust and pollen? This would be like the outdoors becoming a giant anti-s…

Damn, you took me from “hope that doesn’t happen again in my lifetime” to “oh Jesus please let that happen tomorrow” in just a few words.

I spent my whole life only breathing through half a nostril on a good day. About 10 years ago I got surgery and Sublingual Immunotherapy drops, and the results have been life changing.

I sleep better, my mind is clearer, I feel like an entirely new person. I am not exaggerating when I say that I still occasionally think about how nice it is to be able to breathe clearly.

Re: New research reveals the strongest solar event ever detected, in 12350 BC

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Post by coolcase »

otherayden wrote: post #4

Just 5 years away from being 12345

It's a Fibonacci sequence number of decades though

Just think: number of earth revolutions between this event and now minus the number of earth revolutions since Jesus Christ divided by number of fingers and thumbs on a human written out in base (number of fingers and thumbs on a human) is a sequence where each digit is the sum of the previous two digits.

What are the chances?

Re: New research reveals the strongest solar event ever detected, in 12350 BC

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Post by verisimi »

Isn't it amazing that we have an in-silico model that goes back thousands of years and can even tell us about atmospheric conditions 12,000+ years ago? We can confirm this via miyake events which are registered as growth in the tree rings. One just cuts down 13,000 year old trees to confirm the model, and we're good!

Re: New research reveals the strongest solar event ever detected, in 12350 BC

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Post by coenhyde »

hattar wrote: post #34
brookst wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Damn, you took me from “hope that doesn’t happen again in my lifetime” to “oh Jesus please let that happen tomorrow” in just a few words.

I spent my whole life only breathing through half a nostril on a good day. About 10 years ago I got surgery and Sublingual Immunotherapy drops, and the results have been life changing. I sleep better, my mind is clearer, I feel like an entirely new person. I am not exaggerating when I say that I still occasionally think about how nice it is to be able to breathe clearly.

Oxygen is a hell of a drug.

I use nose strips, and I'm addicted now too.

Re: New research reveals the strongest solar event ever detected, in 12350 BC

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Post by jiggawatts »

cyberax wrote: post #19
roygbiv2 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would this effect computers and everyday electrical devices? If we detected something like this heading towards us would we have to turn everything off for the day/week? That's just not possible though is it, can't just turn off nuclear power plants for the day.

There won't be any effect. Solar flares do NOT affect the devices on the ground. All the fast-moving charged particles are completely absorbed in the upper atmosphere. And to give you some perspective, the most energetic flares can produce 10^-3 W/m^2 flux at the Earth's orbit. The flares do affect the geomagnetic field. And a changing magnetic field induces current, but it becomes non-negligible only for very long c…

The panic about these is way out of proportion with the real risks. Modern systems have all sorts of over-voltage protection, and we no longer use "telegraph wires" directly connected to vulnerable electronics like speakers and amplifiers.

All modern telecommunications are over fibre or radio links.

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