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France Endorses UN Open Source Principles

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Re: France Endorses UN Open Source Principles

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Post by b112 »

andy99 wrote: post #3

Curious to know if this extends to LLMs and if so how they would define open source. Specifically it would be nice to see repudiation of Meta's "Open" BS by a nation state.

I wouldn't call data "source", whether a book, a sound track, video, etc.

In my view of the world, the code to train, the software to run, that's open source joy.

Now... should the trained, and vectored data be free? Maybe so.

But I bet this UN thing doesn't cover that.

Re: France Endorses UN Open Source Principles

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Post by shakna »

andy99 wrote: post #3

Curious to know if this extends to LLMs and if so how they would define open source. Specifically it would be nice to see repudiation of Meta's "Open" BS by a nation state.

They're just those eight guidelines. Not particularly precise, with intent mattering more than any definition. This isn't a policy, just a goal.

Re: France Endorses UN Open Source Principles

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Post by bzg »

andy99 wrote: post #3

Curious to know if this extends to LLMs and if so how they would define open source. Specifically it would be nice to see repudiation of Meta's "Open" BS by a nation state.

https://www.comparia.beta.gouv.fr/modeles compares models and Llama different licenses are not mislabeled as "open source".

Also, https://opensource.org/ai/endorsements shows code.gouv.fr in the list.

Re: France Endorses UN Open Source Principles

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Post by andy99 »

b112 wrote: post #5
andy99 wrote: post #3

Curious to know if this extends to LLMs and if so how they would define open source. Specifically it would be nice to see repudiation of Meta's "Open" BS by a nation state.

I wouldn't call data "source", whether a book, a sound track, video, etc. In my view of the world, the code to train, the software to run, that's open source joy. Now... should the trained, and vectored data be free? Maybe so. But I bet this UN thing doesn't cover that.

I didn't call the data the source and in the past have explicitly argued that training data is not necessary to exercise the freedoms normally associated with open source.

Llama models have usage restrictions that go against any mainstream definitions of open source.

Re: France Endorses UN Open Source Principles

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Post by andy99 »

bzg wrote: post #7
andy99 wrote: post #3

Curious to know if this extends to LLMs and if so how they would define open source. Specifically it would be nice to see repudiation of Meta's "Open" BS by a nation state.

https://www.comparia.beta.gouv.fr/modeles compares models and Llama different licenses are not mislabeled as "open source". Also, https://opensource.org/ai/endorsements shows code.gouv.fr in the list.

Cool, thanks!

  Cette licence permet d'utiliser, reproduire, modifier et distribuer librement le code avec attribution, mais impose des restrictions pour les opérations dépassant 700 millions d'utilisateurs mensuels.
Interesting they only mention the 700 million users thing and not the other restrictions on use. Personally I could regard the prohibition against basically Google and Microsoft using it to be a minor transgression, it's the larger list of unacceptable uses that's the big problem.

Re: France Endorses UN Open Source Principles

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Post by johnea »

MilnerRoute wrote: post #2

I'm always hoping to see more coverage of this initiative to drive Open Source adoption both within the United Nations and globally... https://news.slashdot.org/story/25/05/04/2350224/the-un-ditc...

Thanks for the slashdot link, which also links to the UN:

https://unite.un.org/news/osi-first-endorse-united-nations-o...

Is there other access to the French announcement?

That Mastodon link: social.numerique.gouv.fr, isn't viewable for me...

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