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Spaced repetition systems have gotten better

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Re: Spaced repetition systems have gotten better

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My personal workflow with memorizing with Anki using LLMs is as follows: Read textbook material first. It's important that you understand what you are learning.You cannot just breakdown information into atoms and expect to understand how it works together (for example: you can learn that there are monounsaturated fats, polyunsaturated fats, saturated fats and trans fats. But without reading beforehand about them from…

I remember trying that a few months back but I was not convinced by the quality of the cards. It's also hard to convey what I think a good card is, I guess there's something about not getting lost in the details while missing the big picture. You only commented on accuracy, but what's your experience on relevance and how useful LLM-generated flashcards are? To be clear I've already found myself deleting some flashcar…

Well I can give you an output example. This was generated based on chapter from textbook about Vitamin (Vitamin D in this example)

"Which nutrient can be synthesized by the body using sunlight?","Vitamin D" "What is the primary role of vitamin D in calcium regulation?","Raises blood calcium by enhancing absorption, mobilizing bone stores, and reducing kidney excretion" "How does vitamin D affect bones?","Supports bone mineralization and integrity" "What form does vitamin D take before activation?","Inactive precursor synthesized in the skin or consumed in diet" "Which organs activate vitamin D?","Liver and kidneys" "What are signs of vitamin D deficiency in children?","Bowed legs and bone deformities (rickets)" "What is osteomalacia?","Soft, weak bones in adults due to vitamin D deficiency" "What disease is caused by long-term vitamin D deficiency in adults?","Osteoporosis" "How does vitamin D deficiency affect older people?","Increases risk of fractures and joint pain" "What is the toxic effect of too much vitamin D?","Calcification of soft tissues"

You get the idea. How would you rate it's usefulness is subjective but it gets the job done.

Re: Spaced repetition systems have gotten better

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Reality check incoming. Yes you are an asshole. Your word choice matters, and you picked a large number of insulting terms. "not ... smart", "[only use is to] win stupid games.", "[you will spend] your life doing jobs you hate for money". My dude, I'm learning Japanese vocabulary, which has helped me to start reading light novels for fun. By your argument: I'm not smart, wasting my time, and hate my life, or soon wil…

You got triggered because I said memorizing something doesn't make one smart. And called me an asshole. You also said reading stuff in English give you less satisfaction than reading in Japanese. You might want to reflect on why that is the case.

Triggered? Nah, I was merely answering your question. It's clear at this point that any more time I spend here would only be feeding a troll, so rather than address any of that nonsense I think I'll do something more productive instead. Maybe I'll do some flashcards.

Re: Spaced repetition systems have gotten better

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You got triggered because I said memorizing something doesn't make one smart. And called me an asshole. You also said reading stuff in English give you less satisfaction than reading in Japanese. You might want to reflect on why that is the case.

Triggered? Nah, I was merely answering your question. It's clear at this point that any more time I spend here would only be feeding a troll, so rather than address any of that nonsense I think I'll do something more productive instead. Maybe I'll do some flashcards.

Capable of making any arguments than name calling?

Re: Spaced repetition systems have gotten better

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For language learning only, but perhaps my own https://thehardway.app model suits you better (flashcards inside markdown-ish notes)

Sorry, but your landing page is really awful. I’m not allowed to learn about your app because I’m on a tablet? And I have to give you my e-mail address, even though I know nothing about your app so far? Suggestion: Allow me to browse your site and learn about your application, and I’ll decide if it’s interesting enough for me to open it on my desktop later.

You are right, I will get around that. For what is worth, I do not keep the email address.

Re: Spaced repetition systems have gotten better

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I don't think it's a strange comment. He's mostly right (and so are you, but I think you're talking past each other). There's nothing wrong with SRS, and I agree with you that it's basically like cheat codes for memorization, but there is a limit to what most people can do. i.e. most people do tend to drop off. I remember reading some stats from WaniKani (Japanese SRS app) a while back... WaniKani has 60 "levels" to…

Learning a language as a hobby is tough. If you don't need the language to communicate and survive in your environment then you have essentially zero real motivation to learn it. The problem with spaced repetition systems is that it doesn't supply that extra motivation. You're still just memorizing things in a vacuum. If you truly want to learn a language you need to use it to communicate. That means making friends,…

You can also be motivated because you like to consume media in the language (relevant for English and Japanese), because you think it will be useful for a job (English) or for travel (French, Spanish, etc.), or simply because you like the language.

If you don’t have any of these reasons to motivate you, the question arises of why you’re bothering in the first place.

Re: Spaced repetition systems have gotten better

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If anyone's interested in experimenting with FSRS, we at Open Spaced Repetition provide official packages in Python, Typescript and Rust PY: https://github.com/open-spaced-repetition/py-fsrs TS: https://github.com/open-spaced-repetition/ts-fsrs RS: https://github.com/open-spaced-repetition/fsrs-rs Currently ts-fsrs and rs-fsrs support FSRS 6 and py-fsrs should also support FSRS 6 in the next day or so. Also, both py-…

I used this for spaced repetition for opening training on Chessbook, can vouch that the Rust package is excellent. Easy to use and immediately lowered the training load on our users while keeping retention high. FSRS is awesome.

Re: Spaced repetition systems have gotten better

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It’s amazing how every single point you’ve made here is wrong as the other commenter already dove into. On top of that Anki is one of the best documented pieces of open-source software I’ve messed with. If you’re able to program, ChatGPT can basically handle any task you want it too, I data mine the sqllite database regularly for my own insights.

My personal workflow with memorizing with Anki using LLMs is as follows: Read textbook material first. It's important that you understand what you are learning.You cannot just breakdown information into atoms and expect to understand how it works together (for example: you can learn that there are monounsaturated fats, polyunsaturated fats, saturated fats and trans fats. But without reading beforehand about them from…

I have been looking for a workflow to do exactly this!

Which LLM do you use?

Do you do anything special to structure the deck by chapter or section?

Re: Spaced repetition systems have gotten better

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Spaced repetition has been all the rage for 20 years now. Dozens of apps, thousands of lectures, and it turns out its not really a silver bullet. There's nothing really wrong with it, it's just that people tend to fall off the same way they do on any other education pattern. A couple years ago I was thinking "If Google and Apple really cared about kids they would make a spaced repetition unlock system", where by you…

> Dozens of apps, thousands of lectures, and it turns out its not really a silver bullet.

Easy statement to make when you're not defining the silver bullet. Kind of like saying dieting turns out not to be a silver bullet.

I've used spaced repairing for over 6 years. It's been transformative for me.

Re: Spaced repetition systems have gotten better

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I wonder how it compares with the current SuperMemo. I experimented with SuperMemo around 18 months ago, and it made me fall in love with SRS again. The main reason being the algorithm is less punishing when I skip a day. Maybe it has better defaults? I once skipped a whole week and could get back on track in the next week, in Anki that feels unbearable. Another thing I really liked about it is that you can edit a ca…

Currently under debate. FSRS is likely better than SM-17. No data on SM-18 Q&A/discussion: https://supermemopedia.com/wiki/SuperMemo_dethroned_by_FSRS Repo: https://github.com/open-spaced-repetition/fsrs-vs-sm17 Discussion: https://discord.gg/qjzcRTx => https://discord.com/channels/368267295601983490/136895216717...

Am I reading this right, did users go through >10k repetitions on average?
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