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Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by rafaelmn »

fngjdflmdflg wrote: post #345
rafaelmn wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially since it feels so bland and "corpo safe" - the only thing I have feelings about is selling this as expressive :D

It doesn't look bland to me at all. Most of the examples look like a failed Linux rice.

The colors scheme are like the definition of bland, theres zero punchy contrast, there's nothing popping. They show super smooth squiggly line as a "contrast" to a straight line in the play progress. Wow so brave, much courage

Feels tame and bland - and I have no problem with, in fact I don't really want my phone OS GUI to be radical. But just don't sell me BS about how this is bold and how it induces emotional response :D

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by johnisgood »

Nickersf wrote: post #251
bflesch wrote: post #120

How did these clowns manage to make my mouse cursor laggy? It is incomprehensible for me to live in such a big bubble with such a big paycheck and then spend zero brainpower on systems without graphics acceleration. This is extremely bad engineering and these engineers should be called out for it. It takes a special kind of person to deliver this and be proud of it. Once they made their millions at Google these engin…

Not just the technical aspect here. I read through the page and nothing of any measurable importance was stated. What problems did this solve? What benefits does this bring to users? I guess I was expecting more from Google. The initial Material design system made some good points and addressed some issues for UI design. This just seems unfocused.

It comes across as AI-generated diarrhea, without any point. Maybe I am just too dumb to recognize talent?

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by bloggie »

>M3 Expressive designs were overwhelmingly rated higher for attributes such as “energetic,” “emotive,” “positive vibe,” “creative,” “playful,” and “friendly.”

Haha, anything missing here? Maybe usefulness, legibility, clarity, ease of use...

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by thewebguyd »

wltr wrote: post #307
johnisgood wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, my phone is just an accessory I keep in my pocket, but only when I know I may need it for something, e.g. time or calls. Sometimes I do not even take it with myself. No reason for me to do that. I just hit 30.

I feel you guys, but do you read and write here from your laptops? I never come here from a desktop browser, only a smartphone.

> I feel you guys, but do you read and write here from your laptops? I never come here from a desktop browser, only a smartphone.

I do. I hate virtual keyboards and the typing experience on a phone frustrates me to no end, and the copy & paste experience is just as poor. During the workday I don't even look at or use my phone, I reply to messages from my Mac when needed.

Anything that needs more than a couple lines back and forth I do from my laptop. Having a full discussion or conversation using a phone virtual keyboard is such a user hostile experience to me.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by nessguy »

somewhatjustin wrote: post #333
amluto wrote: post #274

Wow, in the process of making the send button slightly easier to find, they reduced the amount of actual content in the screen by a couple lines. And they still overlay controls on the content, thus obscuring some of it, just like earlier versions of Material Design. The prettier and more fun modern UIs get, the more I miss the UIs of the nineties. Controls looked like controls, screen space was well utilized, and ev…

> Wow, in the process of making the send button slightly easier to find, they reduced the amount of actual content in the screen by a couple lines This is a worthy tradeoff! Phones are bigger than ever and scrolling is incredibly simple.

I have a big phone in order to display more actual content, not because I want more whitespace.

Scrolling may be easy, but it’s still harder to quickly skim content if you have to scroll more.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by kps »

myfonj wrote: post #195

Let me share with you my brief but very intensive user story of the "M3 web": 1. User visits https://m3.material.io/develop/web . 2. User suffers unsolicited and redundant gooey animation of an "orange-violet blob-like thingamajig" unrelated to the topic. This happens despite user's clearly communicated "prefers-reduced-motion" setting that other sites usually respect. 3. User struggles to find how to stop said thing…

> This happens despite user's clearly communicated "prefers-reduced-motion" setting

Let's not forget the user's clearly communicated "prefers-color-scheme" setting.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by amluto »

0x457 wrote: post #324
dgimla20 wrote: post #37

Material Design v1 cracked it. It was simple to implement, simple to understand and simple to use. Minimal overheads with a clear content-first approach. "It's time to move beyond “clean” and “boring” designs to create interfaces that connect with people on an emotional level." I don't want websites and apps to connect with me on an emotional level. I want to turn my phone/computer on, use the app/program to achieve…

> Material Design v1 I think it was the worst one. At least from an interoperability perspective: sure, a giant floating "+" in a circle in notes app on a mobile device is alright CTA to add a new note, but on anything bigger than that (even an iPad screen) it's bad. Apps and websites using it felt like "Work in Progress, we will style it later" except there was no later it was already styled and was just ugly.

> sure, a giant floating "+" in a circle in notes app on a mobile device is alright CTA to add a new note

No, it’s not, because it floats over the actual content, which means that the user can neither see nor interact with the content under it. Of course, no one carefully designs the rest of the UI to make sure that content doesn’t get stuck under the floating button.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by kllrnohj »

bflesch wrote: post #120

How did these clowns manage to make my mouse cursor laggy? It is incomprehensible for me to live in such a big bubble with such a big paycheck and then spend zero brainpower on systems without graphics acceleration. This is extremely bad engineering and these engineers should be called out for it. It takes a special kind of person to deliver this and be proud of it. Once they made their millions at Google these engin…

The mouse cursor / general performance complaint is valid but:

> spend zero brainpower on systems without graphics acceleration.

These systems don't exist unless you go out of your way to turn off graphics acceleration. In which case that's kinda on you. It's like ranting about sites requiring javascript. It's just not a realistic expectation to have of anything anymore.

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