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Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by junon »

mnmalst wrote: post #90
andrepd wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No but look > We found a 32% increase in subculture perception, which indicates that expressive design makes a brand feel more relevant and “in-the-know.” We also saw a 34% boost in modernity, making a brand feel fresh and forward-thinking. On top of that, there was a 30% jump in rebelliousness, suggesting that expressive design positions a brand as bold, innovative, and willing to break from convention.

I am a little afraid to ask but what is a "jump in rebelliousness"?

Rebelliousness appears to be one of the emotion metrics they used to score the designs.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by jameskilton »

bflesch wrote: post #120

How did these clowns manage to make my mouse cursor laggy? It is incomprehensible for me to live in such a big bubble with such a big paycheck and then spend zero brainpower on systems without graphics acceleration. This is extremely bad engineering and these engineers should be called out for it. It takes a special kind of person to deliver this and be proud of it. Once they made their millions at Google these engin…

One of the good things that came out of COVID was Google Docs suddenly getting a whole lot better. Why? Because Google engineers finally had to use their tools like the rest of us do, and found out very quickly that Google Docs on normal consumer internet connections sucked.

Google as a company, and in many ways Silicon Valley as a whole, is designed around being a bubble that is ignorant of how the rest of the world actually functions.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by gempir »

antonyh wrote: post #41

The 'send' example perfectly illustrates why I would find Material 3 hard to use - it makes it harder to write the message but easier to send. It's less usable.

I looked at the 2 screenshots and it took me like a minute to see the send button on the new screen.

I am probably very used to the "old" design. If a user will use this product once or twice, yes then the big button at the bottom will be advantaged. But you are biasing the design for new users.

Existing users know exactly where the button is and will now have wasted space because of a gigantic send button.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by troupo »

dgimla20 wrote: post #37

Material Design v1 cracked it. It was simple to implement, simple to understand and simple to use. Minimal overheads with a clear content-first approach. "It's time to move beyond “clean” and “boring” designs to create interfaces that connect with people on an emotional level." I don't want websites and apps to connect with me on an emotional level. I want to turn my phone/computer on, use the app/program to achieve…

> Material Design v1 cracked it.

And yet they had to have a study with 600 people to tell them that ... text fields have to look like txt fields. And they still failed to make textfields look like textfields

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by 28304283409234 »

worldsavior wrote: post #60
dgimla20 wrote: post #37

Material Design v1 cracked it. It was simple to implement, simple to understand and simple to use. Minimal overheads with a clear content-first approach. "It's time to move beyond “clean” and “boring” designs to create interfaces that connect with people on an emotional level." I don't want websites and apps to connect with me on an emotional level. I want to turn my phone/computer on, use the app/program to achieve…

You're talking like Google isn't a ad company trying to keep you staring on your screen.

No see "today, people increasingly see their devices not as tools, but as extensions of themselves."

We are merely catering to those needs. It is philanthropy really. A kindness.

/s

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by fkyoureadthedoc »

bflesch wrote: post #120

How did these clowns manage to make my mouse cursor laggy? It is incomprehensible for me to live in such a big bubble with such a big paycheck and then spend zero brainpower on systems without graphics acceleration. This is extremely bad engineering and these engineers should be called out for it. It takes a special kind of person to deliver this and be proud of it. Once they made their millions at Google these engin…

Probably because they seem to be recreating the cursor on the webpage for that cool effect. Even on a good computer I have some input lag, and going from very low input lag and 120fps cursor to that it feels slightly off. Although I might be imagining it just because it looks different than the normal one...

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by johnisgood »

bflesch wrote: post #120

How did these clowns manage to make my mouse cursor laggy? It is incomprehensible for me to live in such a big bubble with such a big paycheck and then spend zero brainpower on systems without graphics acceleration. This is extremely bad engineering and these engineers should be called out for it. It takes a special kind of person to deliver this and be proud of it. Once they made their millions at Google these engin…

This website is awful. It is extremely sluggish, laggy, and annoying. On top of that, I had to wait a significant amount of time for it to load. No thanks. I thought the tab is going to be killed...

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by Flex247A »

bflesch wrote: post #120

How did these clowns manage to make my mouse cursor laggy? It is incomprehensible for me to live in such a big bubble with such a big paycheck and then spend zero brainpower on systems without graphics acceleration. This is extremely bad engineering and these engineers should be called out for it. It takes a special kind of person to deliver this and be proud of it. Once they made their millions at Google these engin…

Leetcode monkeys with little dev experience will do that.

Re: Material 3 Expressive

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Post by arp242 »

xrhobo wrote: post #64
arp242 wrote: post #14

> Expressive design makes you feel something. It inspires emotion, communicates function, and helps users achieve their goals. I sometimes wonder if the people writing this sort of thing really believe what they're writing? Their case study is mostly just "make buttons that people use a lot stand out". Oh wow! Such emotion! Much feels!

I assume not only do they believe what they are writing but would believe you and I just don't "get it". To be fair, there are things I am really into that seem just as ridiculous to an outsider/non-connoisseur. Microtonal music for example. I have seen youtube comments before on pieces I really do love saying that people must be pretending to like this music because it sounds so awful to them. Or wine tasting comes…

The thing is I can understand wine tasting, or microtonal music, or poetry, or lots of other things. I don't really "get" those things either, but I can see how it's something that other people do "get". I do understand it on some level.

But this kind of stuff ... I don't really understand how anyone can say something like that with a straight face. But maybe that's just a failure of empathy on my part *shrug*

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