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Baby is healed with first personalized gene-editing treatment

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Re: Baby is healed with first personalized gene-editing treatment

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> To accomplish that feat, the treatment is wrapped in fatty lipid molecules to protect it from degradation in the blood on its way to the liver, where the edit will be made. Inside the lipids are instructions that command the cells to produce an enzyme that edits the gene. They also carry a molecular GPS — CRISPR — which was altered to crawl along a person’s DNA until it finds the exact DNA letter that needs to be c…

Made it sound like it's a computer, is it Turing complete?

Re: Baby is healed with first personalized gene-editing treatment

#32

Good thing RFK pushed out the official overseeing this financing and the current administration is actively defunding the organizations that produced this. Better to have more disabled or dead babies instead of science. /s

From a purely utilitarian perspective, funding research like this is not an effective use of dollars at the margin. How many people could we save if an equivalent amount was put into reducing obesity, smoking, and drinking? How many people could we save if we stopped spending money we don't have to do things that the government isn't competent at allocating anyways? That's not to say the research itself is not impres…

With that line of thinking you would never do any advanced science.

Re: Baby is healed with first personalized gene-editing treatment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a purely utilitarian perspective, funding research like this is not an effective use of dollars at the margin. How many people could we save if an equivalent amount was put into reducing obesity, smoking, and drinking? How many people could we save if we stopped spending money we don't have to do things that the government isn't competent at allocating anyways? That's not to say the research itself is not impres…

> How many people could we save if an equivalent amount was put into reducing obesity, smoking, and drinking? How confident are you the answer isn't very close to zero? We've already curtailed smoking quite a bit in the past 30 years. At the level of an individual, it isn't any particular mystery how to stop obesity or to simply not drink, but population-level interventions attempting to get people to voluntarily beh…

It is also capable of creating new diseases that will be resistant to anything we currently have to fight with.

Re: Baby is healed with first personalized gene-editing treatment

#34

Good thing RFK pushed out the official overseeing this financing and the current administration is actively defunding the organizations that produced this. Better to have more disabled or dead babies instead of science. /s

From a purely utilitarian perspective, funding research like this is not an effective use of dollars at the margin. How many people could we save if an equivalent amount was put into reducing obesity, smoking, and drinking? How many people could we save if we stopped spending money we don't have to do things that the government isn't competent at allocating anyways? That's not to say the research itself is not impres…

This argument could be used to stop absolutely any research that isn't dirt cheap.

Maybe even the dirt cheap one, because even 100 dollars could go longer way somewhere in the Sahel.

It is good that the humanity does not have a one-track mind.

Re: Baby is healed with first personalized gene-editing treatment

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How many people could we save if an equivalent amount was put into reducing obesity, smoking, and drinking? How confident are you the answer isn't very close to zero? We've already curtailed smoking quite a bit in the past 30 years. At the level of an individual, it isn't any particular mystery how to stop obesity or to simply not drink, but population-level interventions attempting to get people to voluntarily beh…

It is also capable of creating new diseases that will be resistant to anything we currently have to fight with.

You can torture and execute people with electricity, but it does not follow that discovery and use of electricity was, on the net, a wash.

Re: Baby is healed with first personalized gene-editing treatment

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post #31

> To accomplish that feat, the treatment is wrapped in fatty lipid molecules to protect it from degradation in the blood on its way to the liver, where the edit will be made. Inside the lipids are instructions that command the cells to produce an enzyme that edits the gene. They also carry a molecular GPS — CRISPR — which was altered to crawl along a person’s DNA until it finds the exact DNA letter that needs to be c…

Made it sound like it's a computer, is it Turing complete?

Wouldn't it be surprising if it weren't? There's a bunch of things that are Turing complete, but they are not literally a molecular tape with machinery to read and write it.

Re: Baby is healed with first personalized gene-editing treatment

#38

Good thing RFK pushed out the official overseeing this financing and the current administration is actively defunding the organizations that produced this. Better to have more disabled or dead babies instead of science. /s

From a purely utilitarian perspective, funding research like this is not an effective use of dollars at the margin. How many people could we save if an equivalent amount was put into reducing obesity, smoking, and drinking? How many people could we save if we stopped spending money we don't have to do things that the government isn't competent at allocating anyways? That's not to say the research itself is not impres…

I admit to having a similar thought to this - especially if it is then going to be commercialised and sold for millions of dollars per treatment.

BUT the long term view of creating a technology that can treat any genetic illness (or maybe even any illness?) must outweigh that _eventually_

Re: Baby is healed with first personalized gene-editing treatment

#39

Good thing RFK pushed out the official overseeing this financing and the current administration is actively defunding the organizations that produced this. Better to have more disabled or dead babies instead of science. /s

From a purely utilitarian perspective, funding research like this is not an effective use of dollars at the margin. How many people could we save if an equivalent amount was put into reducing obesity, smoking, and drinking? How many people could we save if we stopped spending money we don't have to do things that the government isn't competent at allocating anyways? That's not to say the research itself is not impres…

A huge amount of money went into researching anti obesity medications

Re: Baby is healed with first personalized gene-editing treatment

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NYT isn’t super specific here, but they made it sound like the disease treated is liver related. My understanding is that the liver is a good place to start with CRISPR-type gene treatments, in that the liver normally deals with anomalous shit in your bloodstream, say, like CRISPR type edits. So anywhere outside the liver is going to be significantly harder to get really broad uptake of gene edits.

It’s crazy encouraging that this worked out for this kid, and I’m somewhat shocked this treatment was approved in the US - I don’t think of us as very aggressive in areas like this. But to me, really hopeful and interesting.

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