Add to the list: Keep HACKER NEWS FOR AND BY HACKERS..stop posting other useless content. I want this place to learn and read about new coding practices, api's, only technically relavent stuff.
A Proposal To Improve Hacker News
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Re: A Proposal To Improve Hacker News
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
> spam, pandering, submission strategies, power users and all the other bullshit that comes with that territory. that's actually what bothers me more about current HN state than the 'harsh comments' everybody complains about. and one another thing: I remember when the frontpage was full of business and tech advice from experienced people who shared valuable knowledge hard to obtain on my own. now I wonder how many mo…
Dude, I'm happy when I see a git / fabric tutorials. I'm always looking for new tips. Looking at the current front page, the lonely VIM tutorial is literally the only thing a programmer is going to find useful right now. Oh, there's also a PCA overview using mostly Excel (two lines of actual code - from matplotlib.mlab import PCA; pca = PCA(x)), something about a new editor called "Lighttable" and a few sciency thing…
Re: A Proposal To Improve Hacker News
#73Please boycott ycmmbinator and hackernews for their misogynistic policy of shadow banning all female participants.
I don't think this can possibly be true. Can you give us some proof of this assertion?
Re: A Proposal To Improve Hacker News
#74This, and many of the suggestions in the original thread, and pg's default response, are all falling into the same trap: they are attempting to fix a people problem using technical solutions. Technology can make community management easier. Better algorithms and visual design and so on can improve the way that a community polices itself. But, I think eventually you'll run into vanishing returns from that kind of stuf…
Sure, some of the suggestions are technological in nature (purple for distinguished veterans). The author seemed very aware that tweaking the algorithms wasn't the solution.
I just picked this particular thread because it was new. The other one was too busy and already halfway down the front page; the same comment there would have worse chances of actually being read.
Re: A Proposal To Improve Hacker News
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem here is that someone who consistently provides high-quality (or at least frequently-upvoted) comments / submissions will likely have less of a contribution than someone with significantly lower karma. For instance: you would have (slightly) more influence than someone with 3000 karma and an average of 5.
You're right but because it's logarithmic, the difference is nominal and evaporates as a new member makes more posts. Plus, what is the downside to encouraging new members to post?
Re: A Proposal To Improve Hacker News
#76What do people think of the idea of removing down votes and allowing only up votes? Has this been shown on other discussion boards to work?
The downside, of course, is that you see so many "WTF? Downvotes? Why" Comments.
Re: A Proposal To Improve Hacker News
#77I'm an algorithm designer, so I don't know about all of these changes but I do have a mathematical solution to PG's vote value problem: before edit: Value of vote = Log[base:TotalUserKarma](UserAvgKarmaPerComment) after edit: Vote Value = (Log[base:TotalUserKarma](AvgUserKarma)) * (Log[base:(25)](ThreadTop50Rank)) another edit: Vote Value = (Log[base:Median(AvgUserKarma)](AvgUserKarma)) * (Log[base:(25)](ThreadTop50R…
The other problem with this idea is that it creates too much of an echo chamber or filter bubble.
Re: A Proposal To Improve Hacker News
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> spam, pandering, submission strategies, power users and all the other bullshit that comes with that territory. that's actually what bothers me more about current HN state than the 'harsh comments' everybody complains about. and one another thing: I remember when the frontpage was full of business and tech advice from experienced people who shared valuable knowledge hard to obtain on my own. now I wonder how many mo…
And that every blog post must be followed by 'Why blog post A is wrong' and then 'why blog post A and B are both wrong'.
Re: A Proposal To Improve Hacker News
#79I'm an algorithm designer, so I don't know about all of these changes but I do have a mathematical solution to PG's vote value problem: before edit: Value of vote = Log[base:TotalUserKarma](UserAvgKarmaPerComment) after edit: Vote Value = (Log[base:TotalUserKarma](AvgUserKarma)) * (Log[base:(25)](ThreadTop50Rank)) another edit: Vote Value = (Log[base:Median(AvgUserKarma)](AvgUserKarma)) * (Log[base:(25)](ThreadTop50R…
Whether or not this is a good thing is a matter of preference. (My preference should be obvious.)
Though, truth be told, I've never worried much about karma.
Re: A Proposal To Improve Hacker News
#80This, and many of the suggestions in the original thread, and pg's default response, are all falling into the same trap: they are attempting to fix a people problem using technical solutions. Technology can make community management easier. Better algorithms and visual design and so on can improve the way that a community polices itself. But, I think eventually you'll run into vanishing returns from that kind of stuf…