This was unmistakably written by a human.
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#32Enjoyed the read, has a similar vibe to Asimov's The Last Question (https://users.ece.cmu.edu/~gamvrosi/thelastq.html)
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#33This idea that machines cant have "emotions" is ridiculous.
Can you explain why so? What are your thoughts on this?
I guess it depends on what you mean by emotions. If you mean emotion as a state of consciousness then you would have to prove that consciousness is not an emergent property of matter and that CPU's don't have this property. Consciousness is hard to debate though since its pretty metaphysical in nature and there's no real argument against solipsism, so all argumentation starts with the axiom that all awake adult humans are conscious.
However, if you mean emotion as a stimuli, ie. a input to the brain net thats endogenous to the system(the human), then there's no question machines can achieve this, in fact the reasoning models already probably do this where different systems regulate each other.
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#34Why are emotions so special? they're just algorithms like any other. Emotions aren't what make humans different than machines. feeling something is similar to an LLM model reacting to a prompt a certain way. Just because chatgpt is trained to not "feel" anything (to avoid controversial output) doesn't mean LLMs can't feel things like we do. self-awareness, self-training, adaptability, original thinking, critical thin…
I wonder if there is something to be said about how machines are based on deterministic and algorithmic properties, whereas emotions could potentially involve logic beyond what humans can observe, like quantum interactions.
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#35You lost me at 'rumors spread', machines wouldn't spread rumors!
"rumor" is a statement without source. It is definitely possible in machine world.
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#36Related but an aside - Lately I've really been wondering if Skynet actually is the next evolution. That humans, like all animals before us, are a stepping stone and there is actually no avoiding machine overlords. It happens to literally every existence of life across the universe because the final emergent property of energy gradients 100% leads to pure logic machines. At least Fermi's paradox helps me sleep better…
There is a quote by Marshall McLuhan:
> Man becomes, as it were, the sex organs of the machine world
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#37I could not give a stronger recommendation to play NieR Automata if you're info this
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#38Related but an aside - Lately I've really been wondering if Skynet actually is the next evolution. That humans, like all animals before us, are a stepping stone and there is actually no avoiding machine overlords. It happens to literally every existence of life across the universe because the final emergent property of energy gradients 100% leads to pure logic machines. At least Fermi's paradox helps me sleep better…
Seems like a good time for "They're Made Out of
Meat": https://www.mit.edu/people/dpolicar/writing/prose/text/think...
Aside: I hope our progeny remember us and think well of us.
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#39Why are emotions so special? they're just algorithms like any other. Emotions aren't what make humans different than machines. feeling something is similar to an LLM model reacting to a prompt a certain way. Just because chatgpt is trained to not "feel" anything (to avoid controversial output) doesn't mean LLMs can't feel things like we do. self-awareness, self-training, adaptability, original thinking, critical thin…
> Why are emotions so special? they're just algorithms like any other.
That's a pretty bold claim.
There's uncountable inputs. It's like trying to accurately predict the weather - chaos theory or something. Emotions are "essentially" gas exchange, but the areas and rate or whatever are not standardized across humans.
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#40I was sketching a sci-fi book idea in a similar tone with the following tones:
- what if AI took over
- what if the laws and legalities that allowed AI to take over bloodlessly just through an economic win force them to have a human representative to take legally binding actions in our society
- what if there developed a spectrum of individuality and cluster for different ai entities leading into a formation of processing guilds with AI agents. Limiting themselves in their individual time to a factor 10 Human Processing Speed for easier Human / AI interaction and to enable one to share the perception of their human representative without overloading them