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AlphaEvolve: A Gemini-powered coding agent for designing advanced algorithms

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Re: AlphaEvolve: A Gemini-powered coding agent for designing advanced algorithms

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Has scifi covered anything after AI? Or do we just feed the beast with Dyson spheres and this is the end point of the intelligent universe?

Yes! Children of Time starts with a AI-capable civilization and proceeds from there. I won't give anything away, and I recommend going in cold! https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25499718-children-of-tim...

Re: AlphaEvolve: A Gemini-powered coding agent for designing advanced algorithms

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Show the training set, and PROVE that the tasks and answers aren't in there. I don't understand why this is not a default first step for proving that this is creating new knowledge.

It's Google. Assume the training set contains, as a subset, the entirety of all public digitized information. How would you like to them to share it?

Re: AlphaEvolve: A Gemini-powered coding agent for designing advanced algorithms

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post #92

This is great. But how incremental are these advancements? I picked one at random (B.2 -- the second autocorrelation inequality). Then, I looked up the paper that produced the previous state of the art ( https://arxiv.org/pdf/0907.1379 ). It turns out that the authors had themselves found the upper bound by performing a numerical search using "Mathematica 6" (p.4). Not only did the authors consider this as a secondar…

Yeah for the kissing number stuff people can find slight improvements if they want. It usually isn't worth it because it provides no insight. But maybe when you generate a lot of them one or some family will turn out to be interesting.

Re: AlphaEvolve: A Gemini-powered coding agent for designing advanced algorithms

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post #136

Finally—something directly relevant to my research ( https://trishullab.github.io/lasr-web/ ). Below are my take‑aways from the blog post, plus a little “reading between the lines.” - One lesson DeepMind drew from AlphaCode, AlphaTensor, and AlphaChip is that large‑scale pre‑training, combined with carefully chosen inductive biases, enables models to solve specialized problems at—or above—human performance. - These s…

> The “knowledge retrieval” stage may hallucinate, but—because the knowledge is expressed as code—we can execute it and validate the result against a custom evaluation function.

Can you give a concrete example of this? It's hard for me to conceptualize.

Re: AlphaEvolve: A Gemini-powered coding agent for designing advanced algorithms

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Show the training set, and PROVE that the tasks and answers aren't in there. I don't understand why this is not a default first step for proving that this is creating new knowledge.

It's Google. Assume the training set contains, as a subset, the entirety of all public digitized information. How would you like to them to share it?

As a tar, please.

Re: AlphaEvolve: A Gemini-powered coding agent for designing advanced algorithms

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Cool, but don't get me wrong, isn't this essentially similar to Google's Co-Scientist, where multiple models are in a loop, passing context back and forth validating things? At its core, it's still a system of LLMs, which is impressive in execution but not fundamentally new. LLMs are undoubtedly useful at tasks like code "optimisation" and detecting patterns or redundancies that humans might overlook, but this announ…

They address this in the AlphaEvolve paper: "While AI Co-Scientist represents scientific hypotheses and their evaluation criteria in natural language, AlphaEvolve focuses on evolving code, and directs evolution using programmatic evaluation functions. This choice enables us to substantially sidestep LLM hallucinations, which allows AlphaEvolve to carry on the evolution process for a large number of time steps."

It is interesting how google turned the tide on GenAI race, and seems to be leading the pack, with not only great fundamental research, but also interesting model and products. To what extent these remain a niche/nice to have or become a sensation remains to be seen, but I hope if they don't reach hype status, they might be released to the open weights world.
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