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Re: Show HN: Semantic Calculator (king-man+woman=?)

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Post by gregschlom »

montebicyclelo wrote: post #51

> king-man+woman=queen Is the famous example everyone uses when talking about word vectors, but is it actually just very cherry picked? I.e. are there a great number of other "meaningful" examples like this, or actually the majority of the time you end up with some kind of vaguely tangentially related word when adding and subtracting word vectors. (Which seems to be what this tool is helping to illustrate, having bri…

Also, as I just learned the other day, the result was never equal, just close to "queen" in the vector space.

Re: Show HN: Semantic Calculator (king-man+woman=?)

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Post by halter73 »

afandian wrote: post #49

There was a site like this a few years ago (before all the LLM stuff kicked off) that had this and other NLP functionality. Styling was grey and basic. That’s all I remember. I’ve been unable to find it since. Does anyone know which site I’m thinking of?

I'm not sure this is old enough, but could you be referencing https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/ from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39205020?

Re: Show HN: Semantic Calculator (king-man+woman=?)

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Post by n2d4 »

godelski wrote: post #39

data + plural = number data - plural = research king - crown = (didn't work... crown gets circled in red) king - princess = emperor king - queen = kingdom queen - king = worker king + queen = queen + king = kingdom boy + age = (didn't work... boy gets circled in red) man - age = woman woman - age = newswoman woman + age = adult female body (tied with man) girl + age = female child girl + old = female child The other…

For fun, I pasted these into ChatGPT o4-mini-high and asked it for an opinion:

   data + plural    = datasets
   data - plural    = datum
   king - crown     = ruler
   king - princess  = man
   king - queen     = prince
   queen - king     = woman
   king + queen     = royalty
   boy + age        = man
   man - age        = boy
   woman - age      = girl
   woman + age      = elderly woman
   girl + age       = woman
   girl + old       = grandmother
The results are surprisingly good, I don't think I could've done better as a human. But keep in mind that this doesn't do embedding math like OP! Although it does show how generic LLMs can solve some tasks better than traditional NLP.

The prompt I used:

> Remember those "semantic calculators" with AI embeddings? Like "king - man + woman = queen"? Pretend you're a semantic calculator, and give me the results for the following:

Re: Show HN: Semantic Calculator (king-man+woman=?)

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Post by thaumasiotes »

antidnan wrote: post #2

Neat! Reminds me of infinite craft https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/

I went to look at infinite craft.

It provides a panel filled with slowly moving dots. Right of the panel, there are objects labeled "water", "fire", "wind", and "earth" that you can instantiate on the panel and drag around. As you drag them, the background dots, if nearby, will grow lines connecting to them. These lines are not persistent.

And that's it. Nothing ever happens, there are no interactions except for the lines that appear while you're holding the mouse down, and while there is notionally a help window listing the controls, the only controls are "select item", "delete item", and "duplicate item". There is also an "about" panel, which contains no information.

Re: Show HN: Semantic Calculator (king-man+woman=?)

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Post by matallo »

HWR_14 wrote: post #63
matallo wrote: post #57

uncle + aunt = great-uncle (91%) great idea, but I find the results unamusing

Your aunt's uncle is your great-uncle. It's more correct than your intuition.

I asked ChatGPT (after posting my comment) and this is the response. "Uncle + Aunt = Great-Uncle is incorrect. A great-uncle is the brother of your grandparent."

Re: Show HN: Semantic Calculator (king-man+woman=?)

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Post by n2d4 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #66
antidnan wrote: post #2

Neat! Reminds me of infinite craft https://neal.fun/infinite-craft/

I went to look at infinite craft. It provides a panel filled with slowly moving dots. Right of the panel, there are objects labeled "water", "fire", "wind", and "earth" that you can instantiate on the panel and drag around. As you drag them, the background dots, if nearby, will grow lines connecting to them. These lines are not persistent. And that's it. Nothing ever happens, there are no interactions except for the…

In the panel, you can drag one of the items (eg. Water) onto another one (eg. Earth), and it will create a new word (eg. Plant). It uses AI, so it goes very deep

Re: Show HN: Semantic Calculator (king-man+woman=?)

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Post by thaumasiotes »

n2d4 wrote: post #68
thaumasiotes wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I went to look at infinite craft. It provides a panel filled with slowly moving dots. Right of the panel, there are objects labeled "water", "fire", "wind", and "earth" that you can instantiate on the panel and drag around. As you drag them, the background dots, if nearby, will grow lines connecting to them. These lines are not persistent. And that's it. Nothing ever happens, there are no interactions except for the…

In the panel, you can drag one of the items (eg. Water) onto another one (eg. Earth), and it will create a new word (eg. Plant). It uses AI, so it goes very deep

No, that was the first thing I tried. The only thing that happens is that the two objects will now share their location. There are no interactions.
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