Is the answer I got.
Why are banks still getting authentication so wrong?
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Re: Why are banks still getting authentication so wrong?
#252 if username == "user1" && password == "password1"
return true;
else if username == "user2" && password == "password2"
return true;
else if ...
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#254Can we get rid of the password expiration too? Requiring that users change their perfectly secure password every 6 months is absurd and gives the impression of security when in reality it only makes things worse.
Our hotel franchise requires us to change the password every month. We can't use the last 6-8 passwords.
Re: Why are banks still getting authentication so wrong?
#255As a european I again find it crazy what kinds of insecure stuff the banking industry in the US does. Chip+PIN arrived long after they did here, SMS Tan is still a thing while EU Payment Services Directive 2 (PSD2) forbid this in 2018, 7 years ago. Many transactions are still authenticated via signatures on paper cheques, you can use your credit card without a second factor (also regulated by PSD2). I just can't unde…
You'd be wrong there but not for obvious reasons.
Ultimately the cost of fraud is passed on to consumers. Banks pass the costs on to merchants, who in turn increase prices.
As a merchant increasing friction in the checkout process to reduce fraud does not improve profitability (broadly speaking).
So no they had no actual financial incentive to even implement chip and pin, that only happened because it was required by law.
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#256Also, they still expect you to authenticate when they phone you. No, I'm not going to tell you my birthday when you phone me. No wonder so many people get scammed, when banks are training people on how to get scammed.
My rule is simple: if you contact me, you are the one that had to authenticate. Otherwise you are probably a scammer. Although, I haven’t had many instances of communications from my bank where I cared about them authenticating. Like, if they tell me there is a problem, I can go check it out through the app, website, or whatever the user-initiated channel is. When I feel like it.
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When calling my bank I have to enter my entire CC number AND my PIN code. Talk about training people to give away sensitive data.
What is the issue? That's literally just your account number and the password. That's what you're supposed to do. That's what security is. That's the sensitive data that ensures it's not a rando calling who stole your card. I'm not sure what alternative you are looking for? You're the one calling them, so it's fine.
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#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
Password manager ftw
This is fine for services you can easily access on a phone or computer. My employer requires I change my laptop password every 60 days, it stores the last 2 years of passwords to prevent reuse. I am not opening up LastPass and plugging in a 32 character random string every time I want to start my computer up. My password at any given point is either a few random words and a number, or a short (8-12 character) alphanu…
Obviously, this is a terrible idea.
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is fine for services you can easily access on a phone or computer. My employer requires I change my laptop password every 60 days, it stores the last 2 years of passwords to prevent reuse. I am not opening up LastPass and plugging in a 32 character random string every time I want to start my computer up. My password at any given point is either a few random words and a number, or a short (8-12 character) alphanu…
The only solution to this problem is to put your password on a post-it note in the most obvious place possible? Are we sure the CISO is the idiot in this story? This sounds like malicious negligence. I sure hope nothing that actually matters is on your system.
Failing to recognize and channel human behavior into positive behaviors and outcomes does suggest a level of ignorance/arrogance outside of extreme situations.
There’s probably a type of data one might handle to justify physical access threat models, but incompetence and out of date knowledge from these types is far more likely. FWIW something like a third to half of CISO’s are from nontechnical management backgrounds, based on surveys I’ve seen.
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#260Identity providing is a natural monopoly and should be provided by the state in same manner as a passport is provided. We can discuss the implementation but in Denmark and quite a few other countries, the login problem in online government services and banking is solved by a single state run identity provider (MitID) and hopefully the EU will be succesful with their EIDAS initiative and provide a solution that works…
In the U.S., identity providing is not a role the government fills. Not everyone has to have a passport, for example. A passport is merely a purpose-specific tool for crossing borders, not general identity.