That "civilizational collapse" scenario must be straight out of the Fallout game.
In my mind I was reading their page with the voice of Ron Perlman - "FAT, FAT never changes...".
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#42Tbh I agree with almost every word there, but I can't believe this OS would be of any help in such a situation. In dusk of our civilization it will not be possible to boot this OS from any modern computer. Those things nowadays don't even have CD. everything is dependent on internet, our data is being disowned by us and put into cloud. In case of broken internet the knowledge is going to be lost. And how we're going…
You don't need a CD drive to boot an OS. A humble USB stick does the trick. And nearly every computer made in the last 10 years has a USB port and the ability to boot from it
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#43Recent issue of Wired has an interview with the author https://www.wired.com/story/forth-collapse-os-apocalypse-pro...
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#44>Its primary purpose is to be maximally useful during the first stage of civilizational collapse, that is, when we can't produce modern computers anymore but that there's still many modern computers around. Any event or series of events that removes mankind's ability to produce modern computers is a global extinction-level event and rather than dicking around with computers one should really be considering suicide to…
That was a hard, and good read. But remember Linux is Love. Linux is Life.
If the end of the world happens I'm going down making and doing dope stuff. I'm not going outside and mingling with people. That's how you get a fucking spear thrown at you or mugged by some newfound MS14 gang swinging hockey sticks and shit.
I'm going to forage for some fruits and vegetables, all that good stuff since I'm too much of a bitch to kill an animal; those things are cute.
I'm going to load up my laptops on solar power/battery, hook in to some internet somewhere and live a normal life.
I don't know what Dusk OS is about but the making computers from fucking sand, now that's dank.
I'll install Desktop Linux on it and we can all start the next era of civilization; this time Microsoft and Apple aint selling us out
catches spear to the chest Shit
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#45Seems like a wishful thinking about the first stage portion of collapse. You're going to be more interested in running some obsolete version of Windows that controls some proprietary infrastructure hardware, not running calculations of whatever kind or building things from scratch.
While it is most likely a very fanciful pet project borne out of post-apo fantasy doomporn, there is one fatal fly in the ointment: In a post apocalyptic situation, who will have THE TIME (nevermind the resources) to dedicate to "operating" one such OS? Apocalypse is generally synonymous with population collapse. Many less humans to interact with means a greatly diminished division of labour and rebuilding civilisation will require first and foremost food production, 14 hours of daily work in the fields, scavenging, hunting, etc....
Taking one worker away from these (tedious) activities would likely be considered an investment that requires significant returns, results, be it only to justify this to other workers who would also like to be sat in front of a computer. Hard to justify having swapped a hard days work for some code on a computer screen.
For that kind of scenario, a lightweight Android rom with some ham-radio driver would probably be more appropriate.
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#46>Its primary purpose is to be maximally useful during the first stage of civilizational collapse, that is, when we can't produce modern computers anymore but that there's still many modern computers around. Any event or series of events that removes mankind's ability to produce modern computers is a global extinction-level event and rather than dicking around with computers one should really be considering suicide to…
> Any event or series of events that removes mankind's ability to produce modern computers is a global extinction-level event and rather than dicking around with computers one should really be considering suicide to avoid a slow, painful, inevitable death in a hostile world surrounded by misery. Wow... there are probably several ways we could lose the ability to fab semiconductors. We can look back through history at…
The world is more than Europe.
There are many domes that were built in the Middle East and Asia while Europe was trying to figure out how to fund expensive vanity projects (large domes).
Computers aren't vanity projects.
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#47I hope the author doesn't take this the wrong way, but this feels like another Temple OS driven by a different (perhaps milder) kind of insanity. It's quite technically impressive, but I'm not sure I'd know what to do with it if I were experiencing an apocalypse, in a way that would be more useful to me than an install of Windows XP or Linux or Freedos would be
An OS for civilizational collapse is a million times more relevant than an OS dedicated to God.
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#48>Its primary purpose is to be maximally useful during the first stage of civilizational collapse, that is, when we can't produce modern computers anymore but that there's still many modern computers around. Any event or series of events that removes mankind's ability to produce modern computers is a global extinction-level event and rather than dicking around with computers one should really be considering suicide to…
> Any event or series of events that removes mankind's ability to produce modern computers is a global extinction-level event
Semiconductors have been around for, what, 70 years? The idea that humans couldn’t survive without modern tech is ludicrous.
Sure, there will be fewer humans, but extincting humans completely is likely to be incredibly difficult without an atmosphere-on-fire scale event.
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#49I hope the author doesn't take this the wrong way, but this feels like another Temple OS driven by a different (perhaps milder) kind of insanity. It's quite technically impressive, but I'm not sure I'd know what to do with it if I were experiencing an apocalypse, in a way that would be more useful to me than an install of Windows XP or Linux or Freedos would be
I gotta be honest
It didnt start out that way But 14 years later I would say this was also a labor of love and I’m not sure if it was entirely rational:
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#50I hope the author doesn't take this the wrong way, but this feels like another Temple OS driven by a different (perhaps milder) kind of insanity. It's quite technically impressive, but I'm not sure I'd know what to do with it if I were experiencing an apocalypse, in a way that would be more useful to me than an install of Windows XP or Linux or Freedos would be
It's just such a boutique thing, saying you're prepared to run 32-bit software on hardware during an apocalypse. If CPUs suddenly become scarce, I would have figured a tube-based, relay-based, or Enigma-type machine with specific useful applications would be more practical.
You do realize that your usb charger has a microprocesor that is as capable as computers you used to play on as a child?
Seriously, finding a running 386 today will probably be more challanging than finding a PC capable of running Cyberpunk in 4k 5 years after the fallout.
Like others have mentioned at worst it's another TempleOS or subtle way to point out to your acquaintance that they shouldn't stay with you alone at best.