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Re: Dusk OS

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Re: Dusk OS

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post #10

There's a lot of idiosyncratic verbiage about stuff like collapse of civilization and users vs. operators, but it's not clear to me what makes this more lightweight or hackable than a typical lightweight RTOS or even just baremetal drivers running on a microcontroller.

Or why an "almost C compiler" is better than a C compiler.

I think that having an "almost" C compiler is a trick they use to minimize the size of the codebase.

Re: Dusk OS

#33
I think many of us feel a lot of existential dread about the future these days, and if hacking on an OS helps the author cope with those feelings and improves their psychology, then I'm all for it. Whatever keeps you sane.

Re: Dusk OS

#34
post #5

Tbh I agree with almost every word there, but I can't believe this OS would be of any help in such a situation. In dusk of our civilization it will not be possible to boot this OS from any modern computer. Those things nowadays don't even have CD. everything is dependent on internet, our data is being disowned by us and put into cloud. In case of broken internet the knowledge is going to be lost. And how we're going…

I think the idea would be to prepare beforehand and have your own copy, alongside your own Wikipedia dump.

Re: Dusk OS

#35

I hope the author doesn't take this the wrong way, but this feels like another Temple OS driven by a different (perhaps milder) kind of insanity. It's quite technically impressive, but I'm not sure I'd know what to do with it if I were experiencing an apocalypse, in a way that would be more useful to me than an install of Windows XP or Linux or Freedos would be

It's just such a boutique thing, saying you're prepared to run 32-bit software on hardware during an apocalypse. If CPUs suddenly become scarce, I would have figured a tube-based, relay-based, or Enigma-type machine with specific useful applications would be more practical.

Re: Dusk OS

#36

I hope the author doesn't take this the wrong way, but this feels like another Temple OS driven by a different (perhaps milder) kind of insanity. It's quite technically impressive, but I'm not sure I'd know what to do with it if I were experiencing an apocalypse, in a way that would be more useful to me than an install of Windows XP or Linux or Freedos would be

An LLM and a modern desktop makes any sufficiently enthusiastic human into an Operator, as the author describes it.

Re: Dusk OS

#37

I hope the author doesn't take this the wrong way, but this feels like another Temple OS driven by a different (perhaps milder) kind of insanity. It's quite technically impressive, but I'm not sure I'd know what to do with it if I were experiencing an apocalypse, in a way that would be more useful to me than an install of Windows XP or Linux or Freedos would be

Temple OS came to my mind, too. At least that one had a UI and games; a much better option if civilization collapses.

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Re: Dusk OS

#38

>Its primary purpose is to be maximally useful during the first stage of civilizational collapse, that is, when we can't produce modern computers anymore but that there's still many modern computers around. Any event or series of events that removes mankind's ability to produce modern computers is a global extinction-level event and rather than dicking around with computers one should really be considering suicide to…

> Any event or series of events that removes mankind's ability to produce modern computers is a global extinction-level event and rather than dicking around with computers one should really be considering suicide to avoid a slow, painful, inevitable death in a hostile world surrounded by misery.

Wow... there are probably several ways we could lose the ability to fab semiconductors. We can look back through history at other periods where they "forgot" how to do various things. Brunelleschi's dome on the Florence Cathedral was the first major dome built in Europe in over a thousand years since the fall of the Western Roman Empire. They lost the knowledge of dome building. Should they have considered doing themselves in because they found themselves in the Dark Ages? We might forget how to do various very involved technical things like fab'ing chips, or we might lose the knowledge/and or ability to even build a fab, for example (just consider the supply-chain required to build a fab and consider how fragile some of those chains are). Yeah, it will mean that something really bad has likely happened, but that doesn't mean that it's the end and we should just go and kill ourselves. It will mean that there's been some kind of discontinuity, but it doesn't necessarily mean the end of humanity. People will still be able to grow crops, hunt, fish, etc (given a reasonable climate remains in enough places). Likely the population under these conditions will be much smaller but it doesn't mean that we can never recover as a species - sure, it might take 1000 years. That's ok, we go on just like ancestors before us who endured great hardship.

Re: Dusk OS

#39

>Its primary purpose is to be maximally useful during the first stage of civilizational collapse, that is, when we can't produce modern computers anymore but that there's still many modern computers around. Any event or series of events that removes mankind's ability to produce modern computers is a global extinction-level event and rather than dicking around with computers one should really be considering suicide to…

Some people would survive.

Re: Dusk OS

#40
post #10

There's a lot of idiosyncratic verbiage about stuff like collapse of civilization and users vs. operators, but it's not clear to me what makes this more lightweight or hackable than a typical lightweight RTOS or even just baremetal drivers running on a microcontroller.

Or why an "almost C compiler" is better than a C compiler.

Or rather, why is it not much worse than an actual C compiler.

In an apocalyptic event energy would be precious. You'd rather have an optimizing compiler to run longer off your solar-charged car battery or whatever.

I like the roleplay/lore and the tech effort is impressive but I don't think it fits the idea.

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