Do you have any revenue sharing program with the content creators? Or are you just poaching them?
They probably haven't decided yet
That would mean poaching lol
Launch HN: Miyagi (YC W25) turns YouTube videos into online, interactive courses
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Who cares?
The people who spend hundreds of hours carefully creating content for their viewers care [0]. The referenced video is from a photographer who has some pretty strong and reasonable thoughts on this - specifically the features YouTube itself is experimenting with. Depending on the nature of the AI product, it has the potential to completely sideline creators. Not saying that’s what Miyagi is doing and it sounds like th…
They put their videos out for public consumption. Not behind a paywall. Once its out there, they lose control of how people interact with it. Should cliff notes and other study guides be banned or regulated?
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#63The tech looks cool.
But it does seem that your platform ingests video content without the permission of the person who creates these videos? The value of your platform is driven by the people creating the videos. You say that you do revenue sharing, and that you have done 5 partnerships. But you have 400 courses, so what about the other 395?
Putting it as kindly as I can: this is ethically fraught. Really, did nobody in the room point this out? You do not come off looking like a partner here.
You need to make this opt-in, not opt-out, and specify revenue sharing terms up front. Those terms need to be generous. The people who produce video content are producing the majority of your product's value. Opt-out, of an ambiguous revenue sharing agreement, is not enough.
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#64Do you have any revenue sharing program with the content creators? Or are you just poaching them?
Lol yea not just poaching, we do revenue sharing (signed deals with a bunch of top creators). They get the majority of all revenue from courses.
For instance we worked directly with Crime Pays but Botany Doesn't & Faculty of Khan etc. to get official courses that they also had input in, and 3Blue1Brown is on board with us having his content on our site.
Re: Launch HN: Miyagi (YC W25) turns YouTube videos into online, interactive courses
#65The tech looks cool. But it does seem that your platform ingests video content without the permission of the person who creates these videos? The value of your platform is driven by the people creating the videos. You say that you do revenue sharing, and that you have done 5 partnerships. But you have 400 courses, so what about the other 395? Putting it as kindly as I can: this is ethically fraught. Really, did nobod…
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#66This is awesome! Congrats Tyrone & Guang!
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Yep, if anyone didn't want their videos to be on our site, we would take it down. Just watched the video, I don't initially agree with his take completely but do totally respect the viewpoint and think a payment split to the creator whenever someone summarizes the video makes sense. Yes we do offer the option to summarize content without creator buy-in, although it seems a bit different since we're also augmenting th…
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I don't think that's true? We're embedding the videos, which is allowed.
Also to be clear we have partnerships for all the featured courses. This refers to if a user creates a course based on some videos.
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#68Congrats on launch
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I don't think that's true? We're embedding the videos, which is allowed. Also to be clear we have partnerships for all the featured courses. This refers to if a user creates a course based on some videos.
> I don't think that's true? We're embedding the videos, which is allowed.
Are you not still making derivative content of the work without the copyright holder's permission? A judge might not care that much whether the video is embedded or not.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
The people who spend hundreds of hours carefully creating content for their viewers care [0]. The referenced video is from a photographer who has some pretty strong and reasonable thoughts on this - specifically the features YouTube itself is experimenting with. Depending on the nature of the AI product, it has the potential to completely sideline creators. Not saying that’s what Miyagi is doing and it sounds like th…
They put their videos out for public consumption. Not behind a paywall. Once its out there, they lose control of how people interact with it. Should cliff notes and other study guides be banned or regulated?
I don’t find Cliff’s notes to be similar at all. They represent standalone short-form content written by authors that is a purchasable option alongside more in-depth options written by other (or at times the same) authors.
If Cliff’s notes were actually just AI summaries of specific books generated by an unrelated entity and presented in a way that allowed the reader to avoid purchasing the underlying content, that’d be a very different scenario.
In the linked example, YouTube is essentially doing the latter. The product launched in this thread sits in a greyer area I think, but still raises some questions about content ownership and how creators will react to these new kinds of tools and modes of consumption.
Whether or not it’s strictly legal is a different conversation than whether or not creators feel comfortable with these emerging options.
> Once its out there, they lose control of how people interact with it.
Sure. But they also have every right to choose to put it behind a paywall if new tools change the calculus that originally made publishing it publicly make sense.