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US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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I think, A new chapter is about to begin. It seems that in the future, many IPs will become democratized — in other words, they will become public assets.

If only there was some sort of term for fake democracy where you're actually just there to plunder resources.

Congress? https://www.capitoltrades.com/

Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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I think, A new chapter is about to begin. It seems that in the future, many IPs will become democratized — in other words, they will become public assets.

Public assets as long as you pay your monthly ChatGPT bill.

Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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The released draft report seems merely to be a litany of copyright holder complaints repeated verbatim, with little depth of reasoning to support the conclusions it makes.

The required reasoning is not very deep though: If an AI reads 100 scientific papers and churns out a new one, it is plagiarism. If a savant has perfect recall, remembers text perfectly and rearranges that text to create a marginally new text, he'd be sued for breach of copyright. Only large corporations get away with it.

Plagiarism is not an issue of copyright law, it's an entirely separate system of rules maintained by academia. The US Copyright Office has no business having opinions about it. If a AI^W human reads 100 papers and then churns out a new one this is usually called research.

Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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post #6

The released draft report seems merely to be a litany of copyright holder complaints repeated verbatim, with little depth of reasoning to support the conclusions it makes.

The required reasoning is not very deep though: If an AI reads 100 scientific papers and churns out a new one, it is plagiarism. If a savant has perfect recall, remembers text perfectly and rearranges that text to create a marginally new text, he'd be sued for breach of copyright. Only large corporations get away with it.

That's not logical. If the savant has perfect recall and makes minor edits they are like a digital copy and aren't really like a human, neural network or by extension any other ML model that isn't over-fitted.

Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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I think, A new chapter is about to begin. It seems that in the future, many IPs will become democratized — in other words, they will become public assets.

"Democratized" as in large corporations are free to ingest the IPs and then reinterpret and censor them before they feed their version back to us, with us never having free access to the original source?

Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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> The remarks about Musk may refer to the billionaire’s recent endorsement of Twitter founder Jack Dorsey’s desire to “Delete all IP law"...

Yes please.

Delete it for everyone, not just these ridiculous autocrats. It's only helping them in the first place!

Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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If anyone was skeptical of the US government being deeply entrenched with these companies in letting this blatant violation of the spirit of the law [1] continue, this should hopefully secure the conclusion. And for the future, here's one heuristic: if there is a profound violation of the law anywhere that (relatively speaking) is ignored or severely downplayed, it is likely that interested parties have arrived at an…

> If anyone was skeptical of the US government being deeply entrenched with these companies in letting this blatant violation of the spirit of the law [1] continue, this should hopefully secure the conclusion.

European here, but why do you think this is so clear cut? There are other jurisdictions where training on copyrighted data has already been allowed by law/caselaw (Germany and Japan). Why do you need a conspiracy in the US?

AFAICT the US copyright law deals with direct reproductions of a copyrighted piece of content (and also carves out some leeway with direct reproduction, like fair use). I think we can all agree by now that LLMs don't fully reproduce "letter perfect" content, right? What then is the "spirit" of the law that you think was broken here? Isn't this the definition of "transformative work"?

Of note is also the other big case involving books - the one where google was allowed to process mountains of books, they were sued and allowed to continue. How is scanning & indexing tons of books different than scanning & "training" an LLM?

Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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post #20

I think, A new chapter is about to begin. It seems that in the future, many IPs will become democratized — in other words, they will become public assets.

If only there was some sort of term for fake democracy where you're actually just there to plunder resources.

This idea does not belong to me. If lawmakers and regulators allow companies to use these IPs, how can you keep ordinary people away from them? Something created by AI is regarded as if it was created from scratch by human hands. that's reality.
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