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US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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Post by achrono »

If anyone was skeptical of the US government being deeply entrenched with these companies in letting this blatant violation of the spirit of the law [1] continue, this should hopefully secure the conclusion.

And for the future, here's one heuristic: if there is a profound violation of the law anywhere that (relatively speaking) is ignored or severely downplayed, it is likely that interested parties have arrived at an understanding. Or in other words, a conspiracy.

[1] There are tons of legal arguments on both sides, but for me it is enough to ask: if this is not illegal and is totally fair use (maybe even because, oh no look at what China's doing, etc.), why did they have to resort to & foster piracy in order to obtain this?

Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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Post by codr7 »

HenryBemis wrote: post #7
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Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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Post by bgwalter »

prvc wrote: post #6

The released draft report seems merely to be a litany of copyright holder complaints repeated verbatim, with little depth of reasoning to support the conclusions it makes.

The required reasoning is not very deep though: If an AI reads 100 scientific papers and churns out a new one, it is plagiarism.

If a savant has perfect recall, remembers text perfectly and rearranges that text to create a marginally new text, he'd be sued for breach of copyright.

Only large corporations get away with it.

Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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Post by whycome »

achrono wrote: post #11

If anyone was skeptical of the US government being deeply entrenched with these companies in letting this blatant violation of the spirit of the law [1] continue, this should hopefully secure the conclusion. And for the future, here's one heuristic: if there is a profound violation of the law anywhere that (relatively speaking) is ignored or severely downplayed, it is likely that interested parties have arrived at an…

What’s your reading of the spirit of the law?

Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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Post by bgwalter »

andy99 wrote: post #2

Two different issues that while apparently related need separate consideration. Re the copyright finding, does the US copyright office have standing to make such a determination? Presumably not since various claims about AI and copyright are before the courts. Why did they write this finding?

The US Supreme court has complained on multiple occasions that it is forced to do the work of the legislative.

Why could a copyright office not advise the congress/senate to enact a law that forbids copyrighted material to be used in AI training? This is literally the politicians' job.

Re: US Copyright Office found AI companies breach copyright. Its boss was fired

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Post by ahmeni »

tempeler wrote: post #18

I think, A new chapter is about to begin. It seems that in the future, many IPs will become democratized — in other words, they will become public assets.

If only there was some sort of term for fake democracy where you're actually just there to plunder resources.
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