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Social drinking also a well-worn path to alcohol use disorder

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Social internet use well worn path to social media abuse... Social swimming has higher risk of drowning... Social cycling has higher risk of traffic accidents...

I have heard of using drinking socially as a justification for drinking excessively. I've never heard someone justify excessive swimming. One is a more common problem.

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> People tend to assume that “the mere presence of other individuals exerts a beneficial effect” that tempers the desire to overindulge when drinking, Fairbairn said.

Who thinks that? I have never personally known anyone who drinks much alone, but plenty who drink too much in groups.

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It is a weird line in the sand that many people draw. If I had two drinks alone every night I would see that as more troubling than having three drinks with friends every night.

Both can be an issue if you find you can't do without the drinks.

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> People tend to assume that “the mere presence of other individuals exerts a beneficial effect” that tempers the desire to overindulge when drinking, Fairbairn said. Who thinks that? I have never personally known anyone who drinks much alone, but plenty who drink too much in groups.

I mean… you wouldn’t necessarily know about the people who drink alone. If you were someone who binged alone why would you talk about it?

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> People tend to assume that “the mere presence of other individuals exerts a beneficial effect” that tempers the desire to overindulge when drinking, Fairbairn said. Who thinks that? I have never personally known anyone who drinks much alone, but plenty who drink too much in groups.

Agreed.

Alcoholics pregame in order to reduce criticism by reducing the number of beverages they are observed consuming.

Once your inhibitions are gone you don’t care as much though.

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Now someone tell Scott Galloway to stop telling men to "go out and drink more" to meet women.

I never heard of Galloway until a year or two ago when he was doing an obviously paid promotional circuit for cryptocurrency scammer Craig Wright, but since then his name seems to crop up all over the place.

I'm generally not surprised to learn when someone around Wright is themselves an addict, substance abuse appears to be a common comorbidity for people involved in or falling for that fraud.

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> People tend to assume that “the mere presence of other individuals exerts a beneficial effect” that tempers the desire to overindulge when drinking, Fairbairn said. Who thinks that? I have never personally known anyone who drinks much alone, but plenty who drink too much in groups.

I mean… you wouldn’t necessarily know about the people who drink alone. If you were someone who binged alone why would you talk about it?

I’ve known too many people who indulge to deal with social anxiety. It’s a terrible terrible plan but they’re more likely to drink when with people than alone.

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The great thing about calling it "alcohol use disorder" is that it lets you diagnose more people.

If you're a nonprofit or advocacy group, "alcoholics" are only going to get you so far in terms of funding, also dealing with them is messy and incredibly difficult.

If you can shift the overton window on whats considered "problematic" drinking you get to "educate" people and get funding for things which have fewer hard criteria or measurable outcomes than treating actual alcoholics. This keeps the money flowing.

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I drink socially. Maybe once a month. And usually it is just one beer. And have never craved it. I think if I drank more often, my desire for it would not change. My brain is not wired to crave it I guess. If yours is, then it doesn't matter if you are drinking, socially or not, you have put yourself on a slippery slope.
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