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Re: Former Supreme Court justice David Souter has died

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All charges should have an age limit, like 70 for Supreme Court, and 65 for president/legislative. Stop making the government a geriatric

This is fair if there are minimum age requirements like for the presidency.

Not that I necessarily agree with the OP’s opinion, but who cares about fair when it comes to running the government? It should be about being effective.

Re: Former Supreme Court justice David Souter has died

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>> This was of course before confirmation hearings became rubber-stamps when the President's party held the Senate Souter was nominated in 1990. The President's party held the Senate in 2005 when Harriet Miers nomination didn't even make it out of committee. If you're talking about an actual vote for a nominee, looks like there were only four rejected candidates in the entire 1900's and 2000's so far ( https://en.wik…

I wasn't referring exclusively to SCOTUS nominees. You think RFK could have been confirmed 10 years ago even if the President's party held the Senate?

In the past one hundred years, only 2 cabinet position nominations have been rejected by a vote in the Senate, and neither occurrence was when the President's party held the Senate.

If you look at nominations that were withdrawn rather than going to a vote and being rejected, President Trump has had 5 withdrawn so far which is the most of any President in US history.

I see no evidence that the process is becoming more of a rubber-stamp than it was previously. If you've got some, I'd like to see it.

Re: Former Supreme Court justice David Souter has died

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Radiolab made a podcast on him, detailing about how he rose above partisanship. We need more people like him in the courts. Episode link: https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolabmoreperfect/epi...

The Gingrich Revolution happened shortly after Souter arrived. Republicans corrected all the previous mistakes and succeeded in stacking the court after that.

What does "stacking the court" mean?

Re: Former Supreme Court justice David Souter has died

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It was a terrible decision. Not that those are rare. [EDIT] To make this a little more substantive, on an issue where they extremely plausibly could have decided otherwise, they elected to go for the option that is plainly, guaranteed to be less-just. There is no universe in which anyone with a brain could believe the overwhelming result of this decision wouldn't be to benefit people with power and money at the expen…

> the city's use of eminent domain was permissible under the Takings Clause, because the general benefits the community would enjoy from economic growth qualified as "public use" Subjective decisions are bad, like we're seeing in other areas. "General benefits" can mean anything if you've got cooperative judges you crammed the courts with. > Not that those are rare. Heller comes to mind, even as a 2a supporter.

What did Heller get wrong? In the majority opinion[1] they do a pretty good job of explaining why they think the right to bear arms applies to the people, not just the militia, and how the amendment enshrines an individual right, not a collective one. In contrast, the dissenting justices can't seem to agree on why the second amendment doesn't apply. Stevens argues that the right to bear arms and other rights (the right to assemble, the right to petition the government) are collective, not individual. He also claims that the second amendment only applies to the militia, but he ignores that the historical sources he cites define the militia as all people capable of bearing arms. Breyer's dissent defines the militia differently, and Breyer spends most of his time arguing that the government can restrict the rights of law-abiding people if the government thinks that doing so will serve its interests (in this case, fighting urban crime). Breyer applies this argument selectively, since if he evaluated other constitutional rights in the same way, it would gut all of them.

Banning law-abiding individuals from possessing firearms may or may not be good policy, but it's hard to see how it's constitutional. If people want to change that policy, they'll need to amend the constitution.

1. https://web.archive.org/web/20100531191739/http://www.suprem...

Re: Former Supreme Court justice David Souter has died

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Supreme Court justices are famous but not well known. Their names are familiar but not their faces. For this reason, David Souter and Stephen Breyer were frequently mistaken for each other. Once during his tenure on the court, Souter was driving from Washington to his home in New Hampshire, and he stopped in a little restaurant to get something to eat. A couple came up to him, and the man asked him a question. "You'r…

That reminds me of Isaac Asimov's[0] story in Asimov Laughs Again about being confused with Arthur C. Clarke[1]. They had similar writing styles, so it was quite common for Isaac's books to be attributed to Arthur and vice versa. Childhood's End[2] was Arthur's most popular and well-known novel at the time.

At a science fiction convention, a woman said to me, "Dr. Asimov, I have just finished your book Childhood's End. I liked it, but I didn't think it was as good as your other books."

Maintaining a straight and solemn face (with an enormous effort), I said, "Yes, ma'am. I was frightfully disappointed in that book, which I thought was quite inferior. I therefore insisted it appear under the pseudonym of Arthur C. Clarke, Jr."

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Asimov

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood%27s_End

Re: Former Supreme Court justice David Souter has died

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I met him at the Court once during law school. He came across as the most even-keeled person in the world. I asked him how he thought he had changed, if at all, throughout his years on the Court. He said, "We never see ourselves as others see us." I'll never forget it. He'll be missed; sorry to hear that his papers won't be released for 50 years.

> sorry to hear that his papers won't be released for 50 years. Are they subject to Freedom of Information requests?

If not, that seems ... shocking.

Edit: I was not aware of this, somehow, lo these many years. Per Google, emphasis mine:

$FOIA grants the public the right to request records from the executive branch of the U.S. Government. However, it specifically excludes the Legislative and Judicial branches, including the Supreme Court.$

Re: Former Supreme Court justice David Souter has died

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> the city's use of eminent domain was permissible under the Takings Clause, because the general benefits the community would enjoy from economic growth qualified as "public use" Subjective decisions are bad, like we're seeing in other areas. "General benefits" can mean anything if you've got cooperative judges you crammed the courts with. > Not that those are rare. Heller comes to mind, even as a 2a supporter.

What did Heller get wrong? In the majority opinion[1] they do a pretty good job of explaining why they think the right to bear arms applies to the people, not just the militia, and how the amendment enshrines an individual right, not a collective one. In contrast, the dissenting justices can't seem to agree on why the second amendment doesn't apply. Stevens argues that the right to bear arms and other rights (the rig…

> If people want to change that policy, they'll need to amend the constitution.

Herein lies the problem: it's just too hard to amend the constitution. Here in Ireland it's just a referendum. Some pass, some don't. It's a living document that changes (slowly) over time.

Heller was a 5/4 decision and a number of lower courts ruled different from the Supreme Court. It's not as clear-cut as you're making it out. The US constitution is vague enough that in many cases you can give several different reasonable interpretations. Endless discussion over what a comma written 250 years ago may or may not mean is quite frankly deeply and profoundly idiotic way of governing a country.

Re: Former Supreme Court justice David Souter has died

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This is fair if there are minimum age requirements like for the presidency.

Not that I necessarily agree with the OP’s opinion, but who cares about fair when it comes to running the government? It should be about being effective.

How would you measure effective? I’m not sure we have any way of measuring anything other than “effective at getting elected”.
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