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Re: ALICE detects the conversion of lead into gold at the LHC

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Post by orblivion »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #57
omnee wrote: post #42

The relevant part: "The ALICE analysis shows that, during Run 2 of the LHC (2015–2018), about 86 billion gold nuclei were created at the four major experiments. In terms of mass, this corresponds to just 29 picograms (2.9 ×10-11 g)." Just need to scale it by trillions to make 1 ounce, but transmutation of lead to gold - the dream of many alchemists - is now just a by product of particle accelerators.

Ran the numbers. The LHC would break even if the price of gold was $48 trillion trillion per ounce.

Well, until they flood the market.

Re: ALICE detects the conversion of lead into gold at the LHC

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Post by Geee »

Benjammer wrote: post #63
sebmellen wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The scale here is absolutely nuts to me. 86 billion nuclei represent only 29 picograms. One gram is 10^12 picograms. 1,000 billion billion gold nuclei per gram of gold.

Avogadro's number has a 10^23 in it to account for this atom-->physical matter sort of "scale up" conversion. Atoms are really small...

Avogadro was a weird looking guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amadeo_Avogadro.png

Re: ALICE detects the conversion of lead into gold at the LHC

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Post by bhaney »

orblivion wrote: post #81
CGMthrowaway wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ran the numbers. The LHC would break even if the price of gold was $48 trillion trillion per ounce.

Well, until they flood the market.

At 10 picograms per year, that'll be a while

Re: ALICE detects the conversion of lead into gold at the LHC

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Post by bgirard »

CGMthrowaway wrote: post #57
omnee wrote: post #42

The relevant part: "The ALICE analysis shows that, during Run 2 of the LHC (2015–2018), about 86 billion gold nuclei were created at the four major experiments. In terms of mass, this corresponds to just 29 picograms (2.9 ×10-11 g)." Just need to scale it by trillions to make 1 ounce, but transmutation of lead to gold - the dream of many alchemists - is now just a by product of particle accelerators.

Ran the numbers. The LHC would break even if the price of gold was $48 trillion trillion per ounce.

Only if the LHC doesn't quire gold to operate. If you're using ICs and components that have some gold in them and they need maintenance, you consume more than you produce.

Re: ALICE detects the conversion of lead into gold at the LHC

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Post by ozornin »

omnee wrote: post #42

The relevant part: "The ALICE analysis shows that, during Run 2 of the LHC (2015–2018), about 86 billion gold nuclei were created at the four major experiments. In terms of mass, this corresponds to just 29 picograms (2.9 ×10-11 g)." Just need to scale it by trillions to make 1 ounce, but transmutation of lead to gold - the dream of many alchemists - is now just a by product of particle accelerators.

Profitability is just a matter of time. Uber was not profitable for years, too. Just wait until the economy of scale kicks in. Alchemy is here to stay. Element conversion is only getting started!

Re: ALICE detects the conversion of lead into gold at the LHC

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Post by lovecg »

sebmellen wrote: post #54
omnee wrote: post #42

The relevant part: "The ALICE analysis shows that, during Run 2 of the LHC (2015–2018), about 86 billion gold nuclei were created at the four major experiments. In terms of mass, this corresponds to just 29 picograms (2.9 ×10-11 g)." Just need to scale it by trillions to make 1 ounce, but transmutation of lead to gold - the dream of many alchemists - is now just a by product of particle accelerators.

The scale here is absolutely nuts to me. 86 billion nuclei represent only 29 picograms. One gram is 10^12 picograms. 1,000 billion billion gold nuclei per gram of gold.

The analogy I heard was that if you take a golf ball and enlarge it to the size of the Earth, the atoms in the enlarged golf ball would be about the size of the original golf ball.

Re: ALICE detects the conversion of lead into gold at the LHC

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Post by monster_truck »

BuyMyBitcoins wrote: post #74
yieldcrv wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

we just need a bigger transmutation circle bro, trust me, just one more transmutation circle, and we’ll finally turn organic material into gold, bro, just around the whole city bro, one more time

I can’t quite put this into words but the idea of a transmutation circle actually being the track of a particle collider is just so funny to me.

This is the plot of countless animes. New magical dude becomes ruler of the city state, constructs 5 new buildings that end up drawing a citywide transmutation circle to harvest all of the souls/etc

Re: ALICE detects the conversion of lead into gold at the LHC

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Post by dhosek »

Geee wrote: post #82
Benjammer wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Avogadro's number has a 10^23 in it to account for this atom-->physical matter sort of "scale up" conversion. Atoms are really small...

Avogadro was a weird looking guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Amadeo_Avogadro.png

He was obviously an alien.

Re: ALICE detects the conversion of lead into gold at the LHC

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Post by echelon »

lovecg wrote: post #86
sebmellen wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The scale here is absolutely nuts to me. 86 billion nuclei represent only 29 picograms. One gram is 10^12 picograms. 1,000 billion billion gold nuclei per gram of gold.

The analogy I heard was that if you take a golf ball and enlarge it to the size of the Earth, the atoms in the enlarged golf ball would be about the size of the original golf ball.

Speaking of scale, this is a fun video at the other end of the spectrum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J_Ugp8ZB4E

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