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None of these treatments has a 100% success rate. You can try EMDR on Youtube and if it worked all the time, psychiatrists would be out of a job.
Not all licensed therapists or psychiatrists provide EMDR. Or did you mean psychiatrists specifically as they prescribe ssri’s?
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#72I don't know how I feel about this. The nature of PTSD is that you have a true memory, that the event happened. Imagine if I tell you, 9/11 was real and it happened, but from now you will never feel any feeling about it. What exactly did we accomplish here? The bombings in Gaza are real, but from now on, you will feel nothing about it. You see? It reads like a dystopia. There's an obsession with erasing the past and…
It’s like having something in your mouth. It doesn’t go away. PTSD therapy is not about zapping the object to make it vanish. It’s about gaining the possibility to chew and swallow it.
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Purely anecdotal, but EMDR was not helpful for me. I’d heard many good things about it and had high hopes, but found it somewhat counterproductive. I think this somewhat depends on the nature of the trauma leading to the PTSD (e.g. a one time major event vs. complex trauma over an extended period). I was dealing with the latter.
EMDR has been shown in many studies that it can be highly effective also for complex PTSD, see eg. a recent meta-meta-study ( https://doi.org/10.1016/j.janxdis.2025.103017 ). It very much and more depends on the relationship with the therapist, and how they integrate EMDR in a "complete" therapy. EMDR is a technique that can be used in many ways, not a full-fledged form of therapy.
I saw someone who worked in the same practice for the EMDR sessions, but did not have the same depth of relationship with the EMDR practitioner, so maybe that was the issue.
I should mention that what ultimately changed the game for me in a major way was Ketamine assisted therapy as a supplement to my regular talk therapy.
After almost 10 years of weekly talk sessions, three Ketamine infusions was like jumping forward another 10 years in terms of processing/integration.
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I think you are correct. The strangest things I have learned about personality disorder is that diagnosis applies for as long as the disordered behavior exists. If the disordered person's behavior adapts to "social norms" the diagnosis no longer applies.
You're somewhat implying this but I'm not sure if you know it exactly but others might find it informative... The reason for that is that the "disorder" part of it is a requirement that it get in the way of normal living. You can have anxiety but if you take a deep breath and you can overcome it, it's not a disorder. If that doesn't help or even if you just haven't tried it, it's a disorder.
These days they call hobbies (like drawing) a "distraction" or go as far as call it an addiction. They are so out of touch with the literature and science with regarding to psychiatry, it is wild.
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Try telling all this to someone who is effectively emotionally/physically disabled because their mind and body either enter a rollercoaster or just shutdown in response to anything vaguely reminiscent of something they experienced. I think these treatments are better understood as methods to encourage one's mind and body to reprocess some experience so that it is "merely" a terrible thing that happened so they can li…
The tribe that you speak of is much much bigger than those who have an official diagnosis of PTSD via psychology. For example, addicts all have PTSD that is commonly related to past childhood/family abuse dynamics. They take drugs over it. So, as a matter of fact, that is exactly what is told to them. You can in fact hold your pain, and I believe it is righteous to do so. It kind of reminds me of Eternal Sunshine of…
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> I don’t think there is clinical level evidence for it Even if it's 100% placebo, if it's not harmful, and it works for a person, then it works. But, determining if it's not harmful should be a priority. I found this person saying it made their life worse, for example: https://www.reddit.com/r/CPTSD_NSCommunity/comments/ungaew/t...
I think you are correct. The strangest things I have learned about personality disorder is that diagnosis applies for as long as the disordered behavior exists. If the disordered person's behavior adapts to "social norms" the diagnosis no longer applies.
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It seems like a more effective bimodal stimulation device is winding its way through the FDA: https://www.reddit.com/r/tinnitus/comments/1d0it8b/comment/l... The results are very promising, but it's sure taking its time getting approved.
The Susan Shore device is open source via studies and publications and it's possible to build your own if you're desperate enough. DM me if you want exact hardware specs. I've gone down this road because I have severe tinnitus.
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I think you are correct. The strangest things I have learned about personality disorder is that diagnosis applies for as long as the disordered behavior exists. If the disordered person's behavior adapts to "social norms" the diagnosis no longer applies.
Well yeah but the definition of "personnality" IS that it's not supposed to move. Do there's a kinda circular reasonning going on
Finally I think there is evidence that people are able to change if they desire it and devote years to it.
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Try telling all this to someone who is effectively emotionally/physically disabled because their mind and body either enter a rollercoaster or just shutdown in response to anything vaguely reminiscent of something they experienced. I think these treatments are better understood as methods to encourage one's mind and body to reprocess some experience so that it is "merely" a terrible thing that happened so they can li…
The tribe that you speak of is much much bigger than those who have an official diagnosis of PTSD via psychology. For example, addicts all have PTSD that is commonly related to past childhood/family abuse dynamics. They take drugs over it. So, as a matter of fact, that is exactly what is told to them. You can in fact hold your pain, and I believe it is righteous to do so. It kind of reminds me of Eternal Sunshine of…
You cease being you every second of every day.
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Not all licensed therapists or psychiatrists provide EMDR. Or did you mean psychiatrists specifically as they prescribe ssri’s?
Psychiatrists oversee treatment and give medication. They don’t do psychotherapy, so they are not in the business of offering EMDR. Easily confused but very distinct jobs.
Sorry, I should a put a source: partner is a therapist.
Edit: autocorrect changed psychotherapy to physiotherapy.