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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV
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#602Will he be taxed on his foreign Papal salary? Or will he forego the salary , like Francis did?
Apparently Popes don't receive a salary, all expenses are covered by the church. Neither is there a retirement package since it's a job for life. I couldn't imagine a Pope applying for a pay raise. Or rather, to whom would the Pope got to get a pay raise ... hm ;)
He's a religious priest which means he cannot own anything other than personal accoutrements. Even if he were to take paid employment before becoming pope, he would have to give it away.
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#603The whole Catholic aesthetic is amazing. Really is the tops.
Seems like Protestants and people in majority-Protestant countries are struck by the bells-and-smells but I think the Catholic Church isn't especially distinctive in this regard. Catholics favor a pretty muted look to things compared with the Eastern churches.
No it's the opposite. The eastern churches are very thread bare. Catholics have icons statues and every other kind of art whereas the eastern church went through iconoclasm. A lot of the eastern stuff today is due to influence from the west. This is especially true of the eastern Catholics.
For example, the Kerala church was so against statues and images that basically all the art we have from them are crosses. This was characteristic of the church of the east. The eastern Orthodox went through iconoclasms and some even have issues with statues still.
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#604The whole Catholic aesthetic is amazing. Really is the tops.
It's certainly intentional. Before even museums, you local church probably had the highest concentration of man made beauty and opulence of any place you'd visit in your lifetime. It's a source of awe, and gives hope that if you believe, maybe you can get a little piece of it, if not in this life, then surely the next.
The average European peasant was exposed to more beauty than a rich American.
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#605Many Italian newspapers (example: IlPost) and, I suspect, many non-US media, report this as “the second American Pope, the first from the USA.”
Which, I think, is fair, as South and Latin are also America. And so is Canada. And so was Francis.
But I usually find it a hard concept to convey to my fellow local USsians.
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#606The New Pope Robert Prevost is a registered Republican https://x.com/TheCalvinCooli1/status/1920534168301130101
This doesn't seem terribly surprising given the church's position on hot-button issues like abortion. But it's also worth noting that registering as a republican doesn't mean you've voted for every republican on the ticket (and vice versa).
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#607Many Italian newspapers (example: IlPost) and, I suspect, many non-US media, report this as “the second American Pope, the first from the USA.” Which, I think, is fair, as South and Latin are also America. And so is Canada. And so was Francis. But I usually find it a hard concept to convey to my fellow local USsians.
>to my fellow local USsians.
I think you illustrated why the concept exists. USA actually has "America" in its name, unlike others - hence 'Americans' and not 'USsians'.
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#608Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like he's spent 2 years in the US since he was 27.
Wait till you see how long Cardinal Pizzaballa who was viewed as the most likely Italian contender for the Papacy, has spent in the Holy Land and not Italy.
> Cardinal Pizzaballa
Not going to lie, I had to check that this was a real name (it is)
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#609Earlier quoted context omitted.
The last Leo was a notable pope. His views are well known. You don’t need to memorise everything, a lot of what they’ve said over the years is available in books or online.
Pope Quartz: https://xkcd.com/2501/ I was raised Catholic and couldn't have even told you there'd been a single Pope Leo, let alone 13 of them before today. The only Pope quote I could even give you is the term "Ex Cathedra".
It never ceases to amaze me how poorly catechized the majority of cradle Catholics are. I don't intend this to be directed at you, but it's a standing joke among traditionalist Catholics that "I was raised Catholic" is the preamble to a statement of either ignorance or heresy.
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#610Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Many a preacher will tell you that their way of "loving" gay people is to warn them of the hellfire awaiting them if they don't quit doing gay stuff and repent I can actually accept this. They’re expressing an opinion, nothing more. If they then proceed to ostracise that person, or refuse to recognise their relations, that’s crossing into hate and pridefulness.
> If they then proceed to ostracise that person, that’s crossing into hate and pridefulness. Agreed > or refuse to recognise their relations, that’s crossing into hate and pridefulness. There I think we need a finer view. "Mx. Other" is important to you? Yes, absolutely, they should recognize that. What you do with "Mx. Other" is good? Absolutely not, it's harming both you and "Mx. Other" who you clearly love . See h…
They try so hard these days to put a "loving" spin on things but it's always the same when you get down to it.
"Sorry, gay people, your desires for sexual intimacy are actually just temptation from Satan / the corrupt nature you inherited from Adam and Eve. Now be celibate your whole life because you were born broken."
They don't say the last bit in so many words, of course.