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From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Post by dijit »

ecnahc515 wrote: post #71
williamdclt wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m confused why cron jobs would be sending emails to root@hpe.com?

Cronjobs often run as root. If the host has is configured to send emails when a cronjob is completed it will default to sending it to user@domain where the user is the user the cronjob runs as, and the domain is what was configured in the cron configuration.

Minor nitpicky correction: cron only sends an email if there's any stdout of the job.

This is an important distinction because if you have configured mail forwarding, your cron jobs should be configured to output only on error.. then any emails are actionable.

Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Post by mattl »

caseyy wrote: post #79
kccqzy wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but the best places I worked in were more concerned with freedom Sure. But if that's the case why do you even have individual email? Make everything a group email and group IM. Not allowed to send messages to a specific person; can only send messages to everyone. What would happen? Can you see the flaw in this logic? Email isn't only for discussing work projects. It needs to be private for discussions involving HR,…

Steve Jobs’s email was not taken away. A guy was allowed to register an alias self-service style. Everyone could reach Jobs on his email.

And every NeXT machine came with an email waiting in your inbox out of the box from sjobs@next.com complete with Lip Service voice message from Steve Jobs.

Of course you likely had no immediate way to reply to an internet email address like that at the time out of the box.

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Post by MarkMarine »

msephton wrote: post #84

Whilst working in corporate I tried to get matt@apple.com which was showing as free, but in fact somebody in retail had claimed it. Good for them!

I had mark@apple.com during my time there, accidentally got added to one of the exec’s threads from Tim and felt pretty silly (and didn’t read anything in that thread, couldn’t delete it fast enough, had to email Tim to explain)

Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Post by testfrequency »

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #88
testfrequency wrote: post #87

This post is particularly funny to me as well as I also had a very common name@apple.com email and I would often get sensitive emails, including travel info, sent to me - despite the fact that I had worked there longer than most peers. I eventually grew so annoyed with it that I ended up surrendering the email to said person as it was a losing battle.

A colleague had an email when they started that was very similar to an SVP. When they highlighted the confusion, it got fixed promptly .

If anything, all it taught me was that nobody at the company would bother to check directory before emailing.

Now that the company uses Slack however, I imagine there’s a lot less confusion.

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Post by bigfatkitten »

ryancnelson wrote: post #43

i love this. A startup I was at during early COVID times got acquired into Hewlett Packard Enterprise, so we all became HPE employees with HPE addresses. There was a similar form there to request "ryancnelson"@hpe, etc... One of my co-workers got cute and asked for "root@hpe.com" .... And boy, there's a lot of cron jobs running at HP.

In the late 90s I worked for a now defunct Australian electronics retailer, who were also a well-known AS/400 shop. Our stock reports etc would come via email from qsecofr@.com.au.

The QSECOFR (Security Officer) user is effectively root on OS/400.

I would've thought they would run these jobs as some other user, but apparently not.

Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Post by rdlw »

void-pointer wrote: post #30
khazhoux wrote: post #25

Honestly, kind of sad that Tim Cook’s reply was so generic. I don’t think I’m off base in saying this, and from personal experience, he is really not connected to the people at the company.

The experience as CEO of a company with 10e2-10e3 headcount is a lot different than the experience with 10e4-10e6 headcount.

Any number of negative employees would be troubling, but I admit 9.9 million of them would be especially bad.

Re: From: Steve Jobs. "Great idea, thank you."

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Post by ab5tract »

vkou wrote: post #93
6stringmerc wrote: post #80

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I think he was all of those things, but also could be the opposite of those things, too.

Humans are complex and when you already changed the course of history by 25 or whatever, you are going to be even more complex.

I don’t idolize Steve Jobs but I do find him to contrast positively against other similar figures like Gates and Ellison. Low bars, I know. But I guess I wanted to defend that people can have a soft spot for Jobs without ever making a dime from any of his endeavors.

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