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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Post by StefanBatory »

moralestapia wrote: post #164
soulofmischief wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you're under its thumb of oppression, all of the aesthetic takes on a very dark and sinister authoritarian tone and becomes symbolic of a lifetime of repression and coercion. Source: raised by an extremely abusive Catholic deacon.

When you're embraced by its grace, all of the aesthetic takes on a very bright and uplifting inspirational tone and becomes symbolic of a lifetime of guidance and empowerment. Source: raised by an extremely loving Catholic mother.

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Post by PaulHoule »

crazygringo wrote: post #60
PaulHoule wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the tickers you see on TV or at Times Square? That’s not communicating?

How many people look at those? Versus how many people across the world are finding out about the new pope? The point is how many people are actually receiving this information. Not "could look up on their phone if they wanted".

I used to be a CNBC junkie. Before there was crypto I used to enjoy adopting a penny stock and watching the ticker for it very closely; you can learn a lot about market dynamics when you are trading a stock where you buy $2000 of stock and that is 30% of the volume for the day. (Try $KBLB for a stock where if you think the price is too high or too low you will find that both opinions are vindicated if you wait long enough.)

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Post by DocTomoe »

griffzhowl wrote: post #183
vFunct wrote: post #92

The whole Catholic aesthetic is amazing. Really is the tops.

It has a close rival in the Bulgarian Orthodox church, from which seemingly the entire metal aesthetic derives https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o81A31hlgEA

Ah, schemamonks. If you are even a little interested in obscure mystical traditions, you really should look into this.

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Post by StefanBatory »

cdelsolar wrote: post #203
vFunct wrote: post #92

The whole Catholic aesthetic is amazing. Really is the tops.

yeah Catholicism is kind of cool. I'm a lapsed Catholic myself (haven't been to church since I was like 12, except for weddings) but for occasions like this I feel a little bit more Catholic.

I might be atheist by now, but credit where it's due. Catholicism is not Evangelicism, where anything goes. Without a central doctrine, many American Evangelics just became... creepy as hell.

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Post by xhevahir »

vFunct wrote: post #92

The whole Catholic aesthetic is amazing. Really is the tops.

Seems like Protestants and people in majority-Protestant countries are struck by the bells-and-smells but I think the Catholic Church isn't especially distinctive in this regard. Catholics favor a pretty muted look to things compared with the Eastern churches.

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Post by moralestapia »

polalavik wrote: post #234
moralestapia wrote: post #189

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This is such petty semantics, most of the world understands that is is a shortening of The United States of America. In fact most everyone uses some version of “Americans” [1]. 96% of the world refers to America as a continent and I’m sure 96% refer to the US as America too. It’s all about context. I don’t think anyone is genuinely confused most of the time. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonyms_for_the_United…

You are an editor on CNN.

A person from the US has been elected as the Pope, you have to come up with a title for this news piece.

You have these two options:

A) First American Pope elected ...

B) First US Pope elected ...

A is ambiguous because "American" means a country for 4% of the world and a continent for 96% of the world. Also, the pope that just died happened to be from Argentina, and also happened to be the "First American Pope" for 96% of the world, adding to the ambiguity.

B does not have any issues and is correct from whichever angle you want to approach it.

Which one do you choose?

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Post by andyjohnson0 »

tantalor wrote: post #215
ralfd wrote: post #205

Is Pope Leo eligible to be voted President of the United States?

Article I, Section 9, Clause 8: No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

That just prevents the awarding of titles by the US, and prevents people already holding an office of the US from accepting a title. It doesnt seem to me to prevent anyone already holding a title from being eligible for office.

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Post by pluc »

CharlesW wrote: post #228
pluc wrote: post #162

How appropriately disconnected from the church to elect an American.

How so? The U.S. is the third-largest national Catholic population in the world, and it's by far the single largest national contributor to the Church’s global finances. Plus, anything that can bend the arc of U.S. history toward the Catholic missions of social justice and human rights is going to matter more in the next four years than it ever has.

It kinda has a shitty reputation right now, especially in Europe. This will embolden the clown in Chief and that isn't good for anyone.

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Post by StefanBatory »

pluc wrote: post #162

How appropriately disconnected from the church to elect an American.

Why was John Paul II elected? Because of politics.

This could be a factor here too. To try to mend, or keep America in faith, according how you look at things.

I'm wondering one thing - how will this affect Catholics in countries like Russia or China. I imagine their leadership will not like this at all, China especially. I know, not many of people there are Catholic, but still.

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