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First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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"Whereas Francis said, “Who am I to judge?” when asked about gay clerics, Cardinal Prevost has expressed less welcoming views to L.G.B.T.Q. people. In a 2012 address to bishops, he lamented that Western news media and popular culture fostered “sympathy for beliefs and practices that are at odds with the gospel.” He cited the “homosexual lifestyle” and “alternative families comprised of same-sex partners and their ado…

The quote is very similar to https://collegeofcardinalsreport.com/cardinals/robert-franci... (“Summary” footnote 1), but missing the second part:

> However, regarding the Vatican’s 2023 document Fiducia Supplicans, which permits non-liturgical blessings for couples in irregular situations (including same-sex couples), Prevost emphasized the need for national bishops’ conferences to have doctrinal authority to interpret and apply such directives in their local contexts, given cultural differences.

So it’s ambiguous.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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I wonder if there is any other event in recent history that is communicated as quickly to as many people as the fact that a new pope has been elected. I was out on the streets when the church bells started ringing here in Vienna as must have all around the globe where there are catholic churches

Probably not as spiritually fulfilling, but the stock market would be an example of that happening at sub-second latencies, every day, all day.

With some exceptions like crisis, not everyone is listening to that.

And it happens every day, all day. It's not discrete information.

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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An American pope!

The conclave had the opportunity to do the funniest thing

Yes, they could have elected me, but I'll expect that they'll come to their senses, and have another chance to do the right thing a decade or two from now.

Have you ever heard of the question: "Is the Pope Catholic?"

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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"Whereas Francis said, “Who am I to judge?” when asked about gay clerics, Cardinal Prevost has expressed less welcoming views to L.G.B.T.Q. people. In a 2012 address to bishops, he lamented that Western news media and popular culture fostered “sympathy for beliefs and practices that are at odds with the gospel.” He cited the “homosexual lifestyle” and “alternative families comprised of same-sex partners and their ado…

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Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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Not a catholic but I kept a tab on the process because the Catholic church seemed to lean towards a very conservative candidate and i was interested to see how it pans out. Turns out we have an American Pope and he wasn't even a top contender.

He was listed among 10 leading candidates in the Guardian, yesterday: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/07/who-next-pope-...

Re: First American pope elected and will be known as Pope Leo XIV

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post #27
post #9

I wonder if there is any other event in recent history that is communicated as quickly to as many people as the fact that a new pope has been elected. I was out on the streets when the church bells started ringing here in Vienna as must have all around the globe where there are catholic churches

Probably not as spiritually fulfilling, but the stock market would be an example of that happening at sub-second latencies, every day, all day.

I don't think that counts as communicating to people at all, let alone to as many people.

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I'm not a catholic but I decided to watch the new Conclave movie as well as a Tasting History by Max Miller to learn a little bit about it. Very interesting but I'd love a historical movie on some of the past conclaves when the pope managed a standing army. Edit: The Max Miller video was about the baby back ribs cooked in proto-bbq sauce made from grapes that was eaten by a conclave.

> when the pope managed a standing army. In the past wasn't the church basically a political entity, there was even a period when some kingdoms didn't recognize the Vatican pope... (I suppose it's still is very much a political organization)

Also a very old bank
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