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I think lifetime should mean lifetime. They should of given you at least 15 years free I think.
It appears that lifetime means lifetime of the product rather than lifetime of the customer. Is anyone really that surprised?
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Q: How long is it good for? A: As long as we exist.
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It appears that lifetime means lifetime of the product rather than lifetime of the customer. Is anyone really that surprised?
This is pretty common with consumer products. If something has a "lifetime warranty," that "lifetime" is typically a defined period of time (e.g.-seven years), not until you die.
I wonder why Joyent thinks they can get away with this. "Q: How long is it good for? A: As long as we exist." seems to be a pretty good definition of "lifetime." I would think they could only get out of their promise via bankruptcy. Maybe Joyent is trying to substitute for legal bankruptcy with moral bankruptcy.
"I wonder why Joyent thinks they can get away with this" "As long as we exist" Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Nobody is going to file a private lawsuit to enforce this (assuming there is even a leg to stand on to enforce it I haven't read the exact contractual promise..) And the other option would be a class action lawsuit where there would have to be enough class members to interest an attorney. (Not relevant in…
I paid the extra $$ for lifetime (and did it back when I was a grad student and had basically zero money) because I didn't want to have to think about hosting any more. Now I have to think about hosting again. Ugh. Broken promises leave a bad taste in my mouth.
On a related note: where is good for hosting two small websites? I'd like to be able to log in with SSH and get an actual Unix shell (and not have to pay too much, as the websites are neither large nor popular).
I wonder why Joyent thinks they can get away with this. "Q: How long is it good for? A: As long as we exist." seems to be a pretty good definition of "lifetime." I would think they could only get out of their promise via bankruptcy. Maybe Joyent is trying to substitute for legal bankruptcy with moral bankruptcy.
"I wonder why Joyent thinks they can get away with this" "As long as we exist" Possession is 9/10ths of the law. Nobody is going to file a private lawsuit to enforce this (assuming there is even a leg to stand on to enforce it I haven't read the exact contractual promise..) And the other option would be a class action lawsuit where there would have to be enough class members to interest an attorney. (Not relevant in…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
The prices were considerably higher than you mention - $500 or $1000 - here's a post about moving between "lifetime" plans from 2007: http://discuss.joyent.com/viewtopic.php?id=13148
Which (if you signed up at the end of 2006 and just got cancelled) comes out to about $7.50 a month. That's more than a EC2 micro instance on a 3 year reserved plan.
I think lifetime should mean lifetime. They should of given you at least 15 years free I think.
It appears that lifetime means lifetime of the product rather than lifetime of the customer. Is anyone really that surprised?
Seems pretty clear cut to me.
(Not sure this is accurate, though. I did find it repeated in a forum discussing Joyent in 2006.)
One of the few? Cool. It's not costing you that much to keep them on their lifetime plan. Surely its not worth the negative PR?
Not sure what Joyent is thinking.
For folks who are headscratching here, back in about 2007 (I remember it because I was getting into Rails) Joyent's precursor company TextDrive bootstrapped some hardware purchases by selling a (barely capable of running Rails, fairly rare for the time) shared hosting account. The kicker was that you'd pay about ~18 months upfront and it would be Lifetime. I don't trust my memory for numbers but somewhere between $15…
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