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Telling Lies: Bowie and Online Music Distribution in 1996

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Re: Telling Lies: Bowie and Online Music Distribution in 1996

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Still remember working for a wireless company fixing phones as a repair tech. One of our steady clients was Prince's studio Flyte Time. Terry Lewis would often come in and I'd loved talking to him about music. One evening before I was closing up, he dropped in with Prince's phone that needed a fast repair. I finally asked him what the deal with Prince and his music was. The Warner Brothers kerfuffle, and all the dram…

Taylor Swift has demonstrated her genius as a businesswoman within the industry by simply re-recording her back catalogue as "Taylor's Versions" which the record company had no rights to -- also a badass example of a woman taking back control of her creative output from an industry dedicated to exploiting the likes of her. (Talk to a female musician if you know one. Women have few options but to let themselves be exp…

Princes problem was different than Swifts. Prince had a recording contract where the company could decide what to release of his work and they released less than Prince wanted.

Re: Telling Lies: Bowie and Online Music Distribution in 1996

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> As part of the launch day activities, Bowie took part in an online chat hosted on CompuServe. The gimmick was that there were “three David Bowie’s” in the chat room — with one being the real Bowie. The audience asked a bunch of questions, and each online Bowie would reply anonymously. Could the internet users tell which two were “telling lies”?

We play a similar game today, with social media managers.

Re: Telling Lies: Bowie and Online Music Distribution in 1996

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Still remember working for a wireless company fixing phones as a repair tech. One of our steady clients was Prince's studio Flyte Time. Terry Lewis would often come in and I'd loved talking to him about music. One evening before I was closing up, he dropped in with Prince's phone that needed a fast repair. I finally asked him what the deal with Prince and his music was. The Warner Brothers kerfuffle, and all the dram…

Taylor Swift has demonstrated her genius as a businesswoman within the industry by simply re-recording her back catalogue as "Taylor's Versions" which the record company had no rights to -- also a badass example of a woman taking back control of her creative output from an industry dedicated to exploiting the likes of her. (Talk to a female musician if you know one. Women have few options but to let themselves be exp…

> Prince could have done the same, but AFAICT he never did. Wonder why?

He might not have had the same rights to the music, publishing, etc. that Swift has. Also, his music relied quite a bit on production (not an insult; it's just the way he made music); maybe he felt he couldn't reproduce the originals or didn't want versions other than the ones he believed in.

Re: Telling Lies: Bowie and Online Music Distribution in 1996

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The trouble is that piracy can run halfway around the world while the legitimate distribution networks are just getting their shoes on. Around that same time frame -- summer of 1996 -- is when I saw an item on the Damaged Cybernetics (remember them?) web site that read: "We are investigating the use of MPEG Layer III compression for music piracy." Those investigations bore major fruit, because by the tine Napster eme…

> The trouble ...

How was and is it trouble for the music industry? They've done very well in the Internet era.

Re: Telling Lies: Bowie and Online Music Distribution in 1996

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The music industry in the 90s was so dead-set on albums because albums were their cash cow. You see, when CDs came out, the industry realized it was the perfect gimmick to sell you your whole music collection all over again, now in crystal-clear digital audio. So much so that new industry labeling standards had to be made just to distinguish between re-releases and new all-digital recordings[0]. Problem is, you can o…

> the original plan for CD singles was to package them on smaller discs It wasn't just a plan. CD (Maxi) Singles were released in European markets in the 80s.[0] [0] https://www.discogs.com/release/126156-Madonna-Like-A-Prayer...

We had them in the US too.

Tray-based CD players had a separate, smaller, indent of about 2.5" (6.35cm :) diameter which would accept them.

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Boy, but it sure took the RIAA •years• to figure out that suing fans (aka “customers”) wasn’t the greatest idea…

How was it not a great idea for the RIAA? I understand how many fans / customers didn't like it, but I think people kept buying the music and the RIAA's terms and definitions like 'piracy' became mainstream (I think that was from the RIAA?).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The music industry in the 90s was so dead-set on albums because albums were their cash cow. You see, when CDs came out, the industry realized it was the perfect gimmick to sell you your whole music collection all over again, now in crystal-clear digital audio. So much so that new industry labeling standards had to be made just to distinguish between re-releases and new all-digital recordings[0]. Problem is, you can o…

> the original plan for CD singles was to package them on smaller discs It wasn't just a plan. CD (Maxi) Singles were released in European markets in the 80s.[0] [0] https://www.discogs.com/release/126156-Madonna-Like-A-Prayer...

There were even business card sized and shaped ones. I remember an article in a computer magazine which warned against using them in the brand new generation of quad speed drives because the unbalanced mass would ruin your expensive CD-ROM drive.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSrOMTr...

Re: Telling Lies: Bowie and Online Music Distribution in 1996

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Boy, but it sure took the RIAA •years• to figure out that suing fans (aka “customers”) wasn’t the greatest idea…

It was an absolutely successful strategy for them. It was traditional terrorism: they went after a few extremely sympathetic, small-time victims to show that they definitely wouldn't have any problem going after you. It worked, and was reasonably cheap.

Re: Telling Lies: Bowie and Online Music Distribution in 1996

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Sounds like Bowie was really a late-comer to online music distribution, by a few years at least.. I think the first mover award goes to Aerosmith for releasing and distributing "Head First" online-only in 1994. No one was using MP3 yet, so it was WAV encoded using a proprietary compression codec that was a separate download. The WWW had only just barely been invented and only a few physics nerds in Switzerland were u…

1994, so late :-)! Frank Zappa proposed something akin to the iTunes store and streaming in 1983: https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/frank-zappa-invented-... We propose to acquire the rights to digitally duplicate and store THE BEST of every record company's difficult-to-move Quality Catalog Items [Q.C.I.], store them in a central processing location, and have them accessible by phone or cable TV, directly patcha…

Proposals are great, but this is HN, credit goes to those who ship!
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