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8 reasons that a VPS is more awesome than you realise

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Re: 8 reasons that a VPS is more awesome than you realise

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Post by taligent »

andrewf wrote: post #8
param wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a fluff piece, probably written for SEO juice. At least the submitter of the story is open in his profile that he works for the company in question (anchor) and is the author of the piece A better article would have quantified all the measurable metrics like "virtual machines are 'fast'" and talked about some of the negatives - like privacy/security concerns etc. What I want to know is - why are they so much…

What I want to know is - why are they so much more expensive than linode(for example). Hosting prices in Australia are all super-expensive.

Depends at what level. Dedicated isn't too bad and there are some VPS providers who have reasonable prices e.g. http://www.mammothvps.com.au/home/index

If Amazon EC2 does come to Sydney as expected then I would expect a bit of a shakeup of the industry.

Re: 8 reasons that a VPS is more awesome than you realise

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Post by kezza »

bitserf wrote: post #12

In other words, the market that doesn't know hosting need not cost that much? You need to be a lot clearer on what you're bringing to the table to be able to charge four times as much.

That's a very valid point!

And I agree, it is sometimes difficult to get that message across (especially, on a single blog post). Probably the biggest offering is seriously talented sysadmins, there's plenty of articles which hopefully get some of that across. For example, the 10 year old MySQL bug which we recently fixed. Could be wrong, but I am not sure that your $20/month hosting providers would be doing that for a client.

Re: 8 reasons that a VPS is more awesome than you realise

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Post by moconnor »

moepstar wrote: post #7

VPS (on Xen, KVM, ...) are all fine and dandy if you control the underlying host machine. Good luck going with a provider that overbook their machines beyond usefulness (most do).

I edit and compile code all day long on a Linode 512. It's always responsive. I actually think most other people at this tier level aren't using their CPUs (or, probably, servers) at all.

Re: 8 reasons that a VPS is more awesome than you realise

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Post by ajtaylor »

param wrote: post #5
Piskvorrr wrote: post #2

The HN crowd will probably know about these benefits. Nice executive summary for higher-up decision-makers, though.

This is a fluff piece, probably written for SEO juice. At least the submitter of the story is open in his profile that he works for the company in question (anchor) and is the author of the piece A better article would have quantified all the measurable metrics like "virtual machines are 'fast'" and talked about some of the negatives - like privacy/security concerns etc. What I want to know is - why are they so much…

According to my bosses who have done the research when setting up their web hosting, the Australian hosts are 1) uniformly VERY expensive and 2) not as reliable as hosting providers elsewhere.

As someone else said, bandwidth is expensive and travels great distances. But that's not the only reason either imho. Things are simply more expensive here. :(

Re: 8 reasons that a VPS is more awesome than you realise

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Post by ZoFreX »

taligent wrote: post #9
param wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a fluff piece, probably written for SEO juice. At least the submitter of the story is open in his profile that he works for the company in question (anchor) and is the author of the piece A better article would have quantified all the measurable metrics like "virtual machines are 'fast'" and talked about some of the negatives - like privacy/security concerns etc. What I want to know is - why are they so much…

You shouldn't be a happy Linode customer. They still haven't owned up to what happened during that Bitcoin incident and what they've done to stop it happening again. Major security incidents DEMAND transparency e.g. look how professional Cloudflare was. So for all you know your VPS could still be hacked in seconds despite whatever security measures you have in place.

What was "that Bitcoin incident"?

Re: 8 reasons that a VPS is more awesome than you realise

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Post by RKearney »

moconnor wrote: post #14
moepstar wrote: post #7

VPS (on Xen, KVM, ...) are all fine and dandy if you control the underlying host machine. Good luck going with a provider that overbook their machines beyond usefulness (most do).

I edit and compile code all day long on a Linode 512. It's always responsive. I actually think most other people at this tier level aren't using their CPUs (or, probably, servers) at all.

You're probably right. I have a Linode 512 as well and I haven't used it since that $100 credit promo when I purchased it.

Re: 8 reasons that a VPS is more awesome than you realise

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Post by cilo »

taligent wrote: post #9
param wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a fluff piece, probably written for SEO juice. At least the submitter of the story is open in his profile that he works for the company in question (anchor) and is the author of the piece A better article would have quantified all the measurable metrics like "virtual machines are 'fast'" and talked about some of the negatives - like privacy/security concerns etc. What I want to know is - why are they so much…

You shouldn't be a happy Linode customer. They still haven't owned up to what happened during that Bitcoin incident and what they've done to stop it happening again. Major security incidents DEMAND transparency e.g. look how professional Cloudflare was. So for all you know your VPS could still be hacked in seconds despite whatever security measures you have in place.

The bitcoin incident was a xen exploit that they couldn't talk about until Xen provided a fix and disclosed themselves. They talk about it, without referencing the bitcoin incident specifically, here http://blog.linode.com/2012/06/13/xen-security-advisories-an...

Re: 8 reasons that a VPS is more awesome than you realise

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Post by bsenftner »

Cloud cloud cloud, what a load of crap. Most of these benefits are benefits to the cloud providers. The expense of a usable linode is more than a dedicated server in colocation, and that colocation server will be 4-8x more powerful. And these guys are multiples more expensive? The cloud is a sham. Creating one's own "cloud" is easy. Don't be duped into paying for "cloud servers" when that same money gets you a physical server in colocation multiple times more powerful. Oh, you can't spin up more servers? Do you need to when your server is 4-8x times more powerful? Plus, you can run your own virtual machines if want to be able to brag about spinning up servers.

Re: 8 reasons that a VPS is more awesome than you realise

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Post by gpjt »

ZoFreX wrote: post #16
taligent wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You shouldn't be a happy Linode customer. They still haven't owned up to what happened during that Bitcoin incident and what they've done to stop it happening again. Major security incidents DEMAND transparency e.g. look how professional Cloudflare was. So for all you know your VPS could still be hacked in seconds despite whatever security measures you have in place.

What was "that Bitcoin incident"?

Second hit on the Google results for "linode bitcoin incident" is this: http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/cloud-service-linode-hacke...
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