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Sneakers (1992) – 4K makeover sourced from the original camera negative

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Re: Sneakers (1992) – 4K makeover sourced from the original camera negative

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Post by jboggan »

dylan604 wrote: post #138
xattt wrote: post #82

Re: negative re-masters I can’t help but notice that a number of older and very prominent shows on streaming services are clearly ripped from a video cassette. For example, the older Simpsons episodes on Disney Plus. Some of the episodes have very prominent dot crawl which is unacceptable for a digital format that you pay for. I also can’t imagine the film masters were trashed, or that the show was composited to vide…

>I also can’t imagine the film masters were trashed, or that the show was composited to video tape. So many shows very much were composited to analog video tape. I personally worked on edit sessions where multiple film-to-tape transfers were composited to 1" then BetacamSP then digital formats like DigiBeta and everything that followed. I get it is hard to grok for eople without direct experience only ever knowing di…

This is spot on. I had a friend working on early streaming license deals, and a typical pattern was getting the streaming rights to a show and then going on a lengthy adventure to find a higher quality master, if any existed. If you see bad transfers or old SD resolution in a digital format I want you to know that someone tried but the originals were in fact lost.

Re: Sneakers (1992) – 4K makeover sourced from the original camera negative

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Post by anjel »

bayindirh wrote: post #122
Aurornis wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The X-Files went the opposite way: The streaming release was remastered from higher quality originals that had been prepared ahead of time for the eventual arrival of higher resolution TV. I’m not surprised that some shows were never archived at higher quality, though. The entertainment industry has a lot of people who just want to get their job done and go home, just like any other industry. Many classic series were…

> The entertainment industry has a lot of people who just want to get their job done and go home, just like any other industry. I think another reason, in addition to yours, is that the entertainment industry sees their products are disposable, or want them to be disposable. This way they can pull the drain plug from the pool, so they can pump in new content into it. Otherwise, listening same good old songs will inev…

Residuals as quite lucrative potenial income stream argue to the contrary.

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Post by nullify88 »

dylan604 wrote: post #151
nullify88 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A great example of this is Hard Boiled 1992, the Hospital Shootout. I think audiences are beginning to appreciate continuous scenes and are becoming more frequent in western films. The most recent one I can think of is John Wick 4, when it goes top down. Some of the recent Michael Bay movies are so aggressive when it comes to cuts, the average shot length must be 2 or 3 seconds.

Modern live music edits are like this as well. When the guitarist is rocking a solo, I don't want to see the back up singers or the lead singer in rapid fire edits. I want to see the guitarist. The top down John Wick scene had me flabbergasted in the theater. The choreography, the camera tracking, the flame thrower like shells from the shotgun all just made for one incredible scene that as you say definitely goes aga…

It's a beautiful scene, and I had to buy Hong Kong Massacre after I read it was an inspiration for that scene. Its got some good beats to shoot to.

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Post by somat »

mortarion wrote: post #55
pragmatick wrote: post #37

What's the relevance of this?

The best movie about physical pentesting and grayhat hacking in general.

That first phone trunk scene in particular stands out as one of the finest hacking scenes in cinema.

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Post by lantastic »

jmuguy wrote: post #170
jph wrote: post #12

Sneakers and Setec Astronomy became my go to for example encryption code for years. If you're not familiar with Setec Astronomy, you're in for a treat. <3

I think you mean cootys rat semen.

Clearly you didn't read my socrates note.

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Post by hylaride »

xattt wrote: post #82

Re: negative re-masters I can’t help but notice that a number of older and very prominent shows on streaming services are clearly ripped from a video cassette. For example, the older Simpsons episodes on Disney Plus. Some of the episodes have very prominent dot crawl which is unacceptable for a digital format that you pay for. I also can’t imagine the film masters were trashed, or that the show was composited to vide…

Over the years I’ve met several people that worked in the cartoon industry because where I live (Toronto) used to be an outsourcing market for many 1980s/1990s cartoons.

The vast majority of the people that commissioned them, including very successful series, wanted it done as fast as possible to get it to TV ASAP. Often they had toys lines up for Xmas that needed to be synced up with schedules. I know people that had worked on some very famous cartoons, including the 1980s Ninja Turtles, Care Bears, etc and the studios commissioning them were very willing to take errors, substandard, and otherwise less than ideal work to get it to market on time (much to the frustration of the artists who were being treated like factory line workers). They did say the creators of Ren and Stimpy were fantastic to work for and they had all sorts of fun Easter eggs added.

Anyways, it does not surprise me that a lot of the work from this era was not taken care of, especially some of the more forgettable episodes of popular shows. A lot of the early licensed work on Netflix was obviously copied from DVD/Blue Rays at the time, too. It can be a lot of work to properly deal with aspect ratios, colour correction, de-interlacing, as well as upscaling the very low analog resolutions.

Maybe AI can get good enough to fix it now, though.

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Post by thephyber »

psanford wrote: post #162

I was shocked when I rewatched this recently just how good the cryptography technobabble is in this movie. Specifically the scene where the professor is presenting on breaking public key cryptography. The very first thing he mentions is a number field sieve. Nice work hiring whatever cryptography consultant that got for this scene.

> … OF GAUSSIAN PROPRTIONS!

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Post by greasegum »

All I remember from seeing this as a kid is that, in the final scene, River Phoenix asks the hot government agent for her phone number. The number she gives is a real non-555 number--pretty sure it was 818 area code?. You could call that number and hear a message from the character for many years.

Was this the only movie ever to do this?

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Post by dymax78 »

zimpenfish wrote: post #130
owlninja wrote: post #84

Plenty of good Sneakers comments, but I was also excited to learn from this article that Uncle Buck has also recently gotten the same treatment! https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Uncle-Buck-4K-Blu-ray/342214/...

Also "Live At Pompeii"[0] (although to my disappointment, it's the cinema version with the DSOTM studio clips - my original experience was the Laserdisc and VHS versions which omitted those because IMO they're not interesting and just get in the way. I'd probably watch "Pink Floyd: DSOTM: BTS" as a standalone thing but it has no place, for me, in "Live At Pompeii".) [0] https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/pink-floyd-…

The newly released blu-ray includes both the 85-minute and 60-minute cuts.
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